英国前首相利兹·特拉斯表示支持比特币，但对 CBDC 持保留态度

在对彼得·麦考马克（Peter McCormack）的采访中，彼得·麦考马克是比特币的长期倡导者和播客主持人，该播客最初只关注比特币，后来扩展到涵盖英国政治

Former UK Prime Minister Liz Truss has expressed support for Bitcoin and a deep skepticism toward central bank digital currencies (CBDCs) during an interview with Peter McCormack, host of the What Bitcoin Did podcast.

英国前首相利兹·特拉斯在接受“比特币做了什么”播客主持人彼得·麦考马克的采访时表达了对比特币的支持，并对央行数字货币（CBDC）表示深深的怀疑。

Truss, who served briefly as Prime Minister and Leader of the Conservative Party, discussed monetary policy, the independence of the Bank of England, and the implications of CBDCs during the interview.

曾短暂担任首相和保守党领袖的特拉斯在采访中讨论了货币政策、英格兰银行的独立性以及 CBDC 的影响。

During the interview, Truss explained her stance on digital assets, highlighting their ability to “take power away from central banks.” She stated:

在采访中，特拉斯解释了她对数字资产的立场，强调了数字资产“夺走央行权力”的能力。她说：

“I am a supporter of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency. I think they’re a good thing. I think they help take power away from central banks… I’m very, very worried about anything like a central bank digital currency completely. I think they give the state huge amounts of power.”

“我是比特币和加密货币的支持者。我认为它们是一件好事。我认为它们有助于夺走央行的权力……我非常非常担心央行数字货币之类的东西。我认为他们赋予了国家巨大的权力。”

She expressed concern over the unchecked influence wielded by central banks, especially the Bank of England, which she argued remains “unaccountable.” Referring to quantitative easing (QE) and inflationary pressures, Truss noted:

她对各国央行，尤其是英格兰银行不受限制的影响力表示担忧，她认为英格兰银行仍然“不负责任”。在谈到量化宽松（QE）和通胀压力时，特拉斯指出：

“We’ve had huge levels of inflation, we had QE that went on for far too long, asset price spikes… and the result was inflation. We were told beforehand that it was going to be transitory and it wasn’t transitory, even though the lessons had all been learned before.”

“我们经历了巨大的通货膨胀，我们的量化宽松持续了太长时间，资产价格飙升……结果就是通货膨胀。我们事先被告知，这将是暂时的，但也不是暂时的，尽管之前已经吸取了教训。”

According to Truss, these policy decisions—combined with the lack of accountability—have resulted in significant financial strain on British households.

特拉斯表示，这些政策决定加上缺乏问责制，给英国家庭带来了巨大的财务压力。

McCormack pressed Truss on whether a central bank is truly necessary. She underscored that if the UK decides to maintain a central bank, it must address its governance:

麦科马克向特拉斯询问中央银行是否真的有必要。她强调，如果英国决定维持央行，就必须解决其治理问题：

“That’s an interesting question. Well, if we do have one, it ought to be accountable. So at the moment, we’ve got the worst of all worlds—we’ve got an unaccountable central bank.”

“这是一个有趣的问题。好吧，如果我们确实有一个，它应该负起责任。所以目前，我们面临着世界上最糟糕的情况——我们有一个不负责任的央行。”

Truss criticized the transfer of power from the Treasury to the Bank of England dating back to former Chancellor Gordon Brown’s move to grant the bank operational independence. She suggested that a lack of robust oversight led to policy missteps with long-term consequences.

特拉斯批评前财政大臣戈登·布朗授予英格兰银行运营独立权的举动，将权力从财政部转移到英格兰银行。她认为，缺乏强有力的监督会导致政策失误，并带来长期后果。

“What Gordon Brown did in making it independent… you can see the results. We’ve had QE for far too long… supporting very, very lax government spending policies with printing money.”

“戈登·布朗为使其独立所做的一切……你可以看到结果。我们实行量化宽松已经太久了……通过印钞来支持非常非常宽松的政府支出政策。”

Truss made it clear she sees potential danger in an official central bank digital currency. Highlighting her primary misgiving, she said:

特拉斯明确表示，她认为官方央行数字货币存在潜在危险。她强调了她的主要疑虑，她说：

“I think they give the state huge amounts of power and what we know is overweening state power is not a good thing… it also feels like part of the surveillance State.”

“我认为他们赋予国家巨大的权力，而我们知道过度的国家权力并不是一件好事……它也感觉像是监视国家的一部分。”

Her remarks echoed broader concerns within the cryptocurrency community, where critics warn that a CBDC could enable governments to monitor and control individual transactions more directly than with cash or decentralized cryptocurrencies.

她的言论呼应了加密货币社区内更广泛的担忧，批评者警告说，与现金或去中心化加密货币相比，CBDC 可以使政府更直接地监视和控制个人交易。

While reflecting on her tenure in government, Truss revealed that delving into monetary policy matters was discouraged:

在反思她的政府任期时，特拉斯透露，不鼓励深入研究货币政策问题：

“When I was at the Treasury and tried to ask about monetary policy, I was told it wasn’t our responsibility, it was the responsibility of the Bank of England… during the leadership campaign in 2022 where I flagged up all the policies I was going to pursue, I said that we should look again at the Bank of England’s mandate.”

“当我在财政部试图询问货币政策时，我被告知这不是我们的责任，而是英格兰银行的责任......在 2022 年的领导层竞选期间，我标记了我所采取的所有政策为了追求这一目标，我说我们应该再次审视英格兰银行的职责。”

She insisted that a broader debate on the mandate and accountability of the Bank of England is crucial to ensuring more robust monetary policies. According to Truss, the Chancellor of the Exchequer should not shy away from engaging on such policies, despite resistance from the Bank or accusations of threatening its independence.

她坚称，就英格兰银行的授权和责任进行更广泛的辩论对于确保更稳健的货币政策至关重要。特拉斯认为，尽管央行反对或被指控威胁其独立性，但英国财政大臣不应回避参与此类政策。

“Whenever an organization justifies itself by saying it’s independent, that in my view is a red flag that there is a problem. So all of this should be talked about: the international monetary system, the independence of central banks, the role of cryptocurrencies,” Truss remarked.

“每当一个组织声称自己是独立的时，我认为这是一个存在问题的危险信号。因此，所有这些都应该被讨论：国际货币体系、央行的独立性、加密货币的作用，”特拉斯说道。