英國前首相利茲特拉斯表示支持比特幣，但對 CBDC 持保留態度

在接受 Peter McCormack 採訪時，Peter McCormack 是比特幣的長期倡導者和播客主持人，該播客最初只專注於比特幣，後來擴展到涵蓋英國政治

Former UK Prime Minister Liz Truss has expressed support for Bitcoin and a deep skepticism toward central bank digital currencies (CBDCs) during an interview with Peter McCormack, host of the What Bitcoin Did podcast.

英國前首相利茲·特拉斯在接受「比特幣做了什麼」播客主持人彼得·麥考馬克的採訪時表達了對比特幣的支持，並對央行數位貨幣（CBDC）表示深深的懷疑。

Truss, who served briefly as Prime Minister and Leader of the Conservative Party, discussed monetary policy, the independence of the Bank of England, and the implications of CBDCs during the interview.

曾短暫擔任首相和保守黨領袖的特拉斯在採訪中討論了貨幣政策、英格蘭銀行的獨立性以及 CBDC 的影響。

During the interview, Truss explained her stance on digital assets, highlighting their ability to “take power away from central banks.” She stated:

在採訪中，特拉斯解釋了她對數位資產的立場，強調了數位資產「奪走央行權力」的能力。她說：

“I am a supporter of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency. I think they’re a good thing. I think they help take power away from central banks… I’m very, very worried about anything like a central bank digital currency completely. I think they give the state huge amounts of power.”

「我是比特幣和加密貨幣的支持者。我認為它們是一件好事。我認為它們有助於奪走央行的權力……我非常非常擔心央行數位貨幣之類的東西。我認為他們賦予了國家巨大的權力。

She expressed concern over the unchecked influence wielded by central banks, especially the Bank of England, which she argued remains “unaccountable.” Referring to quantitative easing (QE) and inflationary pressures, Truss noted:

她對各國央行，尤其是英格蘭銀行不受限制的影響力表示擔憂，她認為英格蘭銀行仍然「不負責任」。在談到量化寬鬆（QE）和通膨壓力時，特拉斯指出：

“We’ve had huge levels of inflation, we had QE that went on for far too long, asset price spikes… and the result was inflation. We were told beforehand that it was going to be transitory and it wasn’t transitory, even though the lessons had all been learned before.”

「我們經歷了巨大的通貨膨脹，我們的量化寬鬆持續了太長時間，資產價格飆升……結果就是通貨膨脹。我們事先被告知，這將是暫時的，但也不是暫時的，儘管之前已經吸取了教訓。

According to Truss, these policy decisions—combined with the lack of accountability—have resulted in significant financial strain on British households.

特拉斯表示，這些政策決定加上缺乏問責制，給英國家庭帶來了巨大的財務壓力。

McCormack pressed Truss on whether a central bank is truly necessary. She underscored that if the UK decides to maintain a central bank, it must address its governance:

麥科馬克向特拉斯詢問中央銀行是否真的有必要。她強調，如果英國決定維持央行，就必須解決治理問題：

“That’s an interesting question. Well, if we do have one, it ought to be accountable. So at the moment, we’ve got the worst of all worlds—we’ve got an unaccountable central bank.”

“這是一個有趣的問題。好吧，如果我們確實有一個，它應該負起責任。所以目前，我們面臨著世界上最糟糕的情況——我們有一個不負責任的央行。

Truss criticized the transfer of power from the Treasury to the Bank of England dating back to former Chancellor Gordon Brown’s move to grant the bank operational independence. She suggested that a lack of robust oversight led to policy missteps with long-term consequences.

特拉斯批評前財政大臣戈登·布朗授予英格蘭銀行營運獨立權的舉動，將權力從財政部轉移到英格蘭銀行。她認為，缺乏強而有力的監督會導致政策失誤，並帶來長期後果。

“What Gordon Brown did in making it independent… you can see the results. We’ve had QE for far too long… supporting very, very lax government spending policies with printing money.”

「戈登·布朗為使其獨立所做的事情……你可以看到結果。我們實行量化寬鬆已經太久了……通過印鈔來支持非常非常寬鬆的政府支出政策。

Truss made it clear she sees potential danger in an official central bank digital currency. Highlighting her primary misgiving, she said:

特拉斯明確表示，她認為官方央行數位貨幣有潛在危險。她強調了她的主要疑慮，她說：

“I think they give the state huge amounts of power and what we know is overweening state power is not a good thing… it also feels like part of the surveillance State.”

“我認為他們賦予國家巨大的權力，而我們知道過度的國家權力並不是一件好事……它也感覺像是監視國家的一部分。”

Her remarks echoed broader concerns within the cryptocurrency community, where critics warn that a CBDC could enable governments to monitor and control individual transactions more directly than with cash or decentralized cryptocurrencies.

她的言論呼應了加密貨幣社群內更廣泛的擔憂，批評者警告說，與現金或去中心化加密貨幣相比，CBDC 可以使政府更直接地監視和控制個人交易。

While reflecting on her tenure in government, Truss revealed that delving into monetary policy matters was discouraged:

在反思她的政府任期時，特拉斯透露，不鼓勵深入研究貨幣政策問題：

“When I was at the Treasury and tried to ask about monetary policy, I was told it wasn’t our responsibility, it was the responsibility of the Bank of England… during the leadership campaign in 2022 where I flagged up all the policies I was going to pursue, I said that we should look again at the Bank of England’s mandate.”

「當我在財政部試圖詢問貨幣政策時，我被告知這不是我們的責任，而是英格蘭銀行的責任......在2022 年的領導層競選期間，我標記了我所採取的所有政策為了追求這一目標，我說我們應該再次審視英格蘭銀行的職責。

She insisted that a broader debate on the mandate and accountability of the Bank of England is crucial to ensuring more robust monetary policies. According to Truss, the Chancellor of the Exchequer should not shy away from engaging on such policies, despite resistance from the Bank or accusations of threatening its independence.

她堅稱，就英格蘭銀行的授權和責任進行更廣泛的辯論對於確保更穩健的貨幣政策至關重要。特拉斯認為，儘管央行反對或被指控威脅其獨立性，但英國財政大臣不應迴避參與此類政策。

“Whenever an organization justifies itself by saying it’s independent, that in my view is a red flag that there is a problem. So all of this should be talked about: the international monetary system, the independence of central banks, the role of cryptocurrencies,” Truss remarked.

「每當一個組織聲稱自己是獨立的時，我認為這是一個有問題的危險信號。因此，所有這些都應該被討論：國際貨幣體系、央行的獨立性、加密貨幣的作用，」特拉斯說。