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以太坊2层缩放解决方案卷轴的联合创始人Ye Zhang强烈批评提议在第2层网络上征收费用,称该想法为“有毒”
Ye "Charles" Zhang, co-founder of the Ethereum Layer-2 scaling solution Scroll, has slammed proposals to impose fees on Layer-2 networks, branding the idea as "toxic." In a series of posts on X, previously known as Twitter, Zhang argued that such tariffs prioritize short-term revenue over the ecosystem's foundational values and scalability. He also stated that such developments may be counterintuitive for Ethereum's future.
以太坊2层缩放解决方案滚动的联合创始人Ye“ Charles” Zhang已抨击提案以对2层网络上的费用征收费用,并将该思想称为“有毒”。张在一系列关于X的文章(以前称为Twitter的帖子)中,认为此类关税优先于生态系统的基本价值和可扩展性。他还说,这种发展可能对以太坊的未来违反直觉。
According to Zhang, taxing Layer-2 networks showcases a corporate behavior, which contradicts Ethereum's decentralized values. He cautions that such a move could propel developers toward alternative data availability layers, ultimately diminishing Ethereum's significance within the broader blockchain industry.
根据张的说法,征税2层网络展示了企业行为,这与以太坊的分散价值相矛盾。他警告说,这样的举动可以推动开发人员进入替代数据可用性层,最终降低了以太坊在更广泛的区块链行业中的重要性。
"People get paid to be pessimistic but siphon into new paradigms. E.g. if we were getting paid to suggest new revenue sources for ETH, I’d say it’s a terrible idea to tax L2s. It’s a band-aid for short-term thinking. We need to be 1000x more pessimistic to see the true problems," Zhang stated.
“人们得到了悲观的报酬,但要屈服于新的范式。
He further added, "Layer-2s are the future of ETH. But taxing them is a sure way to kill the golden goose. It shows a lack of understanding of the bigger picture. We need to be smarter and more strategic in our approach to scaling Ethereum."
他进一步补充说:“第2层是ETH的未来。但是对它们征税是杀死黄金鹅的肯定方法。它表明对更大的局面缺乏了解。我们在缩放以太坊的方法中需要更聪明,更具战略意义。”
In another post, Zhang compared Ethereum to Solana, highlighting how the latter is vertically integrated, with its native token, SOL, being the main asset in one system, rendering it easy to tax. He noted that Solana also has a tighter control over its ecosystem. However, Solana's scalability is more limited.
在另一篇文章中,张将以太坊与索拉纳进行了比较,强调了后者是如何垂直整合的,其本机代币,sol,是一个系统中的主要资产,使其易于征税。他指出,索拉纳(Solana)对其生态系统也更加控制。但是,Solana的可伸缩性更加有限。
On the other hand, Zhang pointed out that Ethereum is already the dominant asset on Base, Arbitrum, Optimism, zkSync, Scroll, and even in cases where it's not the gas token, it’s still the major pair on DEX. According to him, this showcases how people prefer to use ETH even on other chains.
另一方面,张指出,以太坊已经是基础,仲裁,乐观,ZKSYNC,卷轴的主要资产,甚至在不是气体令牌的情况下,它仍然是DEX上的主要伙伴。据他说,这展示了人们即使在其他链条上都喜欢使用ETH。
According to the Scroll co-founder, this new revenue stream will be quickly absorbed by existing creditors, and taxing these Layer-2s will only serve to diminish the community's enthusiasm for contributing to its growth. Instead, he suggests focusing on expanding the data availability layer.
根据Scroll联合创始人的说法,这种新的收入流将很快被现有债权人吸收,对这些第2层的征税只会减少社区对促进其增长的热情。相反,他建议专注于扩展数据可用性层。
"We need 1000x more blob capacity, shared tooling for cross-rollup bridges, and to integrate with Stellar for xchain. Those are the problems we should be working on, not how to tax L2s. They’ll get taxed anyway. It’s a zero-sum game. But we can cooperate to build something new and positive."
“我们需要增加1000倍的斑点容量,用于交叉滚动桥的共享工具,并与Xchain的Stellar集成。这些是我们应该解决的问题,而不是如何征税L2。无论如何它们都会征税。这是一个零M的游戏。但是我们可以合作建立新的和积极的东西。”
Ultimately, Zhang believes that Ethereum will succeed not by extracting value but by enabling it. He envisions a future where Ethereum is the trusted store of value and economic hub for thousands of flourishing rollups, with each rollup ecosystem having ETH as the major asset. This, he says, is the key to realizing large-scale adoption for Ethereum.
最终,张认为,以太坊不会通过提取价值而是通过实现价值来取得成功。他设想了一个未来,以太坊是可信赖的价值和经济枢纽的储藏,用于数千种蓬勃发展,每个卷卷生态系统都有ETH作为主要资产。他说,这是实现以太坊大规模采用的关键。
However, he warns that if people get paid to suggest new revenue sources for ETH, they'll be cutting off the very hand that feeds them. In his view, if we're thinking long-term about how to secure Ethereum's future, it's not by imposing tariffs on Layer-2s or suggesting new revenue streams for the blockchain. Instead, the focus should be on expanding the data availability layer.
但是,他警告说,如果人们获得报酬,为ETH建议新的收入来源,他们将切断养活他们的手。他认为,如果我们长期考虑如何确保以太坊的未来,那不是通过对2层的关税征收关税或为区块链提出新的收入来源。相反,重点应放在扩展数据可用性层上。
"We need 1000x more blob capacity, shared tooling for cross-rollup bridges, and to integrate with Stellar for xchain. Those are the problems we should be working on, not how to tax L2s. They’ll get taxed anyway. It’s a zero-sum game. But we can cooperate to build something new and positive."
“我们需要增加1000倍的斑点容量,用于交叉滚动桥的共享工具,并与Xchain的Stellar集成。这些是我们应该解决的问题,而不是如何征税L2。无论如何它们都会征税。这是一个零M的游戏。但是我们可以合作建立新的和积极的东西。”
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建议将最后一段与上一段合并。它会阅读:
According to the Scroll co-founder, this new revenue stream will be quickly absorbed by existing creditors, and taxing these Layer-2s will only serve to diminish the community's enthusiasm for contributing to its growth. Instead, he suggests focusing on expanding the data availability layer. In his words, we need 1000x more blob capacity, shared tooling for cross-rollup bridges, and to integrate with Stellar for xchain. Those are the problems we should be working on, not how to tax L2s. They’ll get taxed anyway. It’s a zero-sum game. But we can cooperate to build something new and positive.
根据Scroll联合创始人的说法,这种新的收入流将很快被现有债权人吸收,对这些第2层的征税只会减少社区对促进其增长的热情。相反,他建议专注于扩展数据可用性层。用他的话来说,我们需要增加1000倍的斑点容量,共享交叉滚动桥的工具,并与Xchain的Stellar集成。这些是我们应该解决的问题,而不是如何征税L2。无论如何,他们都会征税。这是一个零和游戏。但是我们可以合作建立一些新的和积极的东西。
Ultimately, Zhang believes that Ethereum will succeed not by extracting value but by enabling it. He sees two possible futures for Ethereum. In one, he predicts that Ethereum will become a trusted store of value and a central hub for Layer-2 networks. “A thousand scalable rollups with ETH as the center > any monolithic chain,” he wrote.
最终,张认为,以太坊不会通过提取价值而是通过实现价值来取得成功。他看到以太坊的两个可能的未来。他预测,以太坊将成为值得信赖的价值存储和第2层网络的中心枢纽。他写道:“一千个可扩展的汇总作为中心>任何整体链。”
However, he stated that imposing tariffs on these rollups could hinder Ethereum's own growth and drive developers away, weakening Ethereum's relevance/
但是,他说,对这些汇总征收关税可能会阻碍以太坊的成长并驱使开发商离开,从而削弱了以太坊的相关性/
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