乔·罗根 (Joe Rogan) 接受特朗普采访引发 YouTube 搜索争议

乔·罗根 (Joe Rogan) 在 10 月 30 日的播客中声称，YouTube 搜索结果似乎掩盖了他备受期待的前总统唐纳德·特朗普 (Donald Trump) 的采访。

Rogan and Vance began their 3-hour conversation discussing their children’s first experiences uttering swear words.

罗根和万斯开始了长达 3 小时的谈话，讨论了孩子们第一次说脏话的经历。

Rogan shared, “When my 14-year-old was two we were on a skiing trip and we forgot her helmet and my daughter looks at the helmet and says: ‘Shit.’”

罗根分享道，“当我 14 岁的孩子两岁时，我们去滑雪旅行，我们忘记了她的头盔，我女儿看着头盔说：‘糟糕。’”

Vance added, “I took my 3-year-old son on a trip and my son drops a cookie in between the seat and he looks at me and says: “Dad, well…f&ck.”

万斯补充道，“我带着我 3 岁的儿子去旅行，我儿子在座位之间放了一块饼干，他看着我说：“爸爸，好吧……操。”

The two went on to discuss a wide range of topics including abortion, (Rogan is much more liberal than Vance), and what happened when Vance found out Trump was shot, “I grab my kids up, throw them in the car, go home and load all my guns, and basically stand like a sentry at our front door.”

两人接着讨论了广泛的话题，包括堕胎（罗根比万斯自由得多），以及万斯发现特朗普被枪杀后发生的事情，“我把我的孩子抱起来，扔进车里，回家然后给我所有的枪装上子弹，然后就像哨兵一样站在我们的前门。”

Rogan and Vance were both critical of the pharmaceutical industry, Vance said, “One of the reasons why we don’t have more people asking questions about Big Pharma, of course, is the entire national media. The whole conduit of money into politics is fundamentally broken. They corrupt the media ecosystem because if you’re getting all that money from the pharma companies, then you’re not going to launch investigations into some of the things you should be launching investigations into.”

罗根和万斯都对制药行业持批评态度，万斯说：“当然，我们没有更多人询问大型制药公司的原因之一是整个国家媒体。金钱进入政治的整个渠道从根本上被打破了。他们破坏了媒体生态系统，因为如果你从制药公司那里得到那么多钱，那么你就不会对一些你应该调查的事情进行调查。”

Vance and Rogan speculated that men who are healthier and have higher testosterone levels tend to be conservative. The pair suggested that META CEO Mark Zuckerberg might now be a Trump supporter.

万斯和罗根推测，健康且睾酮水平较高的男性往往比较保守。两人表示，META 首席执行官马克·扎克伯格现在可能是特朗普的支持者。

Rogan shared, “There are very few things that will turn you into a conservative more than martial arts training.”

罗根分享道：“很少有什么比武术训练更能让你变成保守派了。”

Vance added, “Have you seen all these studies that basically connect testosterone levels in young men with conservative politics?”

万斯补充道，“你看过所有这些基本上将年轻人的睾丸激素水平与保守政治联系起来的研究吗？”

“Maybe that’s why the Democrats want us all to be, you know, poor health and overweight is because, because that means that we’re gonna be more liberal.”

“也许这就是为什么民主党希望我们所有人都健康状况不佳和体重超重，因为这意味着我们会更加自由。”

“If you make people less healthy, they apparently become more politically liberal. That’s an interesting observation.”

“如果你让人们变得不那么健康，他们显然会在政治上变得更加自由。这是一个有趣的观察。”

“My secret theory is that Zuck is now a Trump supporter, but he can’t say that publicly of course, but hopefully he is.”

“我的秘密理论是，扎克现在是特朗普的支持者，但他当然不能公开这么说，但希望他是。”

Rogan claimed on his Oct. 30 podcast that YouTube search results appeared to obscure his highly anticipated interview with former President Donald Trump. Rogan noted “something happened” with the platform’s search visibility for the video, questioning why the episode wasn’t trending. “There’s no way it was a mistake, that’s too convenient,” he said, speculating it could have been a deliberate move by “some rogue engineer.” Rogan declared that platforms “can’t suppress sh*t anymore,” pointing to what he views as declining influence of traditional tech gatekeepers.

罗根在 10 月 30 日的播客中声称，YouTube 搜索结果似乎掩盖了他备受期待的前总统唐纳德·特朗普的采访。罗根指出，该视频的平台搜索可见性“发生了一些事情”，并质疑为什么该剧集没有成为热门话题。 “这不可能是一个错误，这太方便了，”他说，并猜测这可能是“某个流氓工程师”故意采取的行动。罗根宣称平台“不能再压制垃圾”，并指出他认为传统科技看门人的影响力正在下降。

Rogan shared that Elon Musk, also frustrated by the search issue, directly reached out to Spotify CEO Daniel Ek to discuss the situation before Musk reposted the full interview on his X account (formerly Twitter). In a follow-up tweet, Rogan highlighted the difficulty viewers were having in finding the interview on YouTube, prompting him to upload the video to X as a workaround.

罗根表示，埃隆·马斯克也对搜索问题感到沮丧，他直接联系 Spotify 首席执行官丹尼尔·埃克 (Daniel Ek) 讨论这一情况，然后马斯克在他的 X 帐户（以前的 Twitter）上转发了完整的采访内容。在后续推文中，罗根强调了观众在 YouTube 上找到采访内容的困难，促使他将视频上传到 X 作为解决方法。

Responding to the accusations, YouTube’s parent company, Google, told Variety that the video “didn’t appear prominently” in some searches on Monday, attributing the issue to a glitch now resolved. Google didn’t clarify what caused the issue.

针对这些指控，YouTube 的母公司谷歌告诉 Variety，该视频在周一的一些搜索中“没有出现在显着位置”，并将问题归因于现已解决的故障。谷歌没有澄清导致该问题的原因。

The Trump interview has since become one of Rogan’s most prominent episodes, marking the first time a former U.S. president appeared on the “Joe Rogan Experience.” Rogan had long maintained he would never host Trump, making the interview all the more significant. During the discussion, the two covered topics from election fraud and Trump’s policies to speculation about aliens.

此后，特朗普的采访成为罗根最引人注目的剧集之一，标志着美国前总统首次出现在“乔·罗根经历”中。罗根长期以来一直坚称他永远不会接待特朗普，这使得这次采访变得更加重要。在讨论中，两人讨论了从选举舞弊、特朗普政策到对外星人的猜测等话题。

For Trump’s campaign, the podcast appearance represented a rare opportunity to connect with a broad, primarily male audience as a counterweight to expected strong support for Vice President Harris among women voters. Rogan’s podcast, the most listened to on Spotify, provided a direct line to a young male demographic that the Trump team has increasingly sought to engage over the past year.

对于特朗普的竞选团队来说，播客的出现代表了一个难得的机会，可以与广大（主要是男性）观众建立联系，以平衡副总统哈里斯在女性选民中的强烈支持。罗根的播客是 Spotify 上收听率最高的播客，它为特朗普团队在过去一年中越来越多地寻求与年轻男性群体进行接触提供了直接渠道。

Rogan had hoped to record a podcast with Kamala Harris but they have been unable to agree on terms. The Harris campaign offered to record an interview but he “would have had to travel to her and they only wanted to do an hour.”

罗根曾希望与卡玛拉·哈里斯录制一个播客，但他们未能就条款达成一致。哈里斯的竞选团队提出要录制一次采访，但他“必须去见她，而他们只想录制一个小时”。