喬·羅根 (Joe Rogan) 接受川普採訪引發 YouTube 搜索爭議

喬·羅根 (Joe Rogan) 在 10 月 30 日的播客中聲稱，YouTube 搜尋結果似乎掩蓋了他備受期待的前總統唐納德·川普 (Donald Trump) 的採訪。

Rogan and Vance began their 3-hour conversation discussing their children’s first experiences uttering swear words.

羅根和萬斯開始了長達 3 小時的談話，討論了孩子們第一次說髒話的經歷。

Rogan shared, “When my 14-year-old was two we were on a skiing trip and we forgot her helmet and my daughter looks at the helmet and says: ‘Shit.’”

羅根分享道，“當我 14 歲的孩子兩歲時，我們去滑雪旅行，我們忘記了她的頭盔，我女兒看著頭盔說：‘糟糕。’”

Vance added, “I took my 3-year-old son on a trip and my son drops a cookie in between the seat and he looks at me and says: “Dad, well…f&ck.”

萬斯補充道，“我帶著我 3 歲的兒子去旅行，我兒子在座位之間放了一塊餅乾，他看著我說：“爸爸，好吧……操。

The two went on to discuss a wide range of topics including abortion, (Rogan is much more liberal than Vance), and what happened when Vance found out Trump was shot, “I grab my kids up, throw them in the car, go home and load all my guns, and basically stand like a sentry at our front door.”

兩人接著討論了廣泛的話題，包括墮胎（羅根比萬斯自由得多），以及萬斯發現川普被槍殺後發生的事情，「我把我的孩子抱起來，扔進車裡，回家然後給我所有的槍裝上子彈，然後就像哨兵一樣站在我們的前門。

Rogan and Vance were both critical of the pharmaceutical industry, Vance said, “One of the reasons why we don’t have more people asking questions about Big Pharma, of course, is the entire national media. The whole conduit of money into politics is fundamentally broken. They corrupt the media ecosystem because if you’re getting all that money from the pharma companies, then you’re not going to launch investigations into some of the things you should be launching investigations into.”

羅根和萬斯都對製藥業持批評態度，萬斯說：「當然，我們沒有更多人詢問大型製藥公司的原因之一是整個國家媒體。金錢進入政治的整個管道從根本上被打破了。他們破壞了媒體生態系統，因為如果你從製藥公司那裡得到那麼多錢，那麼你就不會對一些你應該調查的事情進行調查。

Vance and Rogan speculated that men who are healthier and have higher testosterone levels tend to be conservative. The pair suggested that META CEO Mark Zuckerberg might now be a Trump supporter.

萬斯和羅根推測，健康且睪固酮水平較高的男性往往比較保守。兩人表示，META 執行長馬克祖克柏現在可能是川普的支持者。

Rogan shared, “There are very few things that will turn you into a conservative more than martial arts training.”

羅根分享道：“很少有什麼比武術訓練更能讓你變成保守派了。”

Vance added, “Have you seen all these studies that basically connect testosterone levels in young men with conservative politics?”

萬斯補充道，“你看過所有這些基本上將年輕人的睾丸激素水平與保守政治聯繫起來的研究嗎？”

“Maybe that’s why the Democrats want us all to be, you know, poor health and overweight is because, because that means that we’re gonna be more liberal.”

“也許這就是為什麼民主黨希望我們所有人都健康狀況不佳和體重超重，因為這意味著我們會更加自由。”

“If you make people less healthy, they apparently become more politically liberal. That’s an interesting observation.”

「如果你讓人們變得不那麼健康，他們顯然會在政治上變得更加自由。這是一個有趣的觀察。

“My secret theory is that Zuck is now a Trump supporter, but he can’t say that publicly of course, but hopefully he is.”

“我的秘密理論是，扎克現在是川普的支持者，但他當然不能公開這麼說，但希望他是。”

Rogan claimed on his Oct. 30 podcast that YouTube search results appeared to obscure his highly anticipated interview with former President Donald Trump. Rogan noted “something happened” with the platform’s search visibility for the video, questioning why the episode wasn’t trending. “There’s no way it was a mistake, that’s too convenient,” he said, speculating it could have been a deliberate move by “some rogue engineer.” Rogan declared that platforms “can’t suppress sh*t anymore,” pointing to what he views as declining influence of traditional tech gatekeepers.

羅根在 10 月 30 日的播客中聲稱，YouTube 搜尋結果似乎掩蓋了他備受期待的前總統唐納德·川普的採訪。羅根指出，該影片的平台搜尋可見性“發生了一些事情”，並質疑為什麼該劇集沒有成為熱門話題。 「這不可能是一個錯誤，這太方便了，」他說，並猜測這可能是「某個流氓工程師」故意採取的行動。羅根宣稱平台“不能再壓制垃圾”，並指出他認為傳統科技看門人的影響力正在下降。

Rogan shared that Elon Musk, also frustrated by the search issue, directly reached out to Spotify CEO Daniel Ek to discuss the situation before Musk reposted the full interview on his X account (formerly Twitter). In a follow-up tweet, Rogan highlighted the difficulty viewers were having in finding the interview on YouTube, prompting him to upload the video to X as a workaround.

羅根表示，埃隆馬斯克也對搜索問題感到沮喪，他直接聯繫Spotify 首席執行官丹尼爾·埃克(Daniel Ek) 討論這一情況，然後馬斯克在他的X 帳戶（以前的Twitter）上轉發了完整的訪談內容。在後續推文中，羅根強調了觀眾在 YouTube 上找到採訪內容的困難，促使他將影片上傳到 X 作為解決方法。

Responding to the accusations, YouTube’s parent company, Google, told Variety that the video “didn’t appear prominently” in some searches on Monday, attributing the issue to a glitch now resolved. Google didn’t clarify what caused the issue.

針對這些指控，YouTube 的母公司谷歌告訴 Variety，該影片在周一的一些搜尋中“沒有出現在顯著位置”，並將問題歸因於現已解決的故障。谷歌沒有澄清導致該問題的原因。

The Trump interview has since become one of Rogan’s most prominent episodes, marking the first time a former U.S. president appeared on the “Joe Rogan Experience.” Rogan had long maintained he would never host Trump, making the interview all the more significant. During the discussion, the two covered topics from election fraud and Trump’s policies to speculation about aliens.

此後，川普的採訪成為羅根最引人注目的劇集之一，標誌著美國前總統首次出現在《喬·羅根經歷》中。羅根長期以來一直堅稱他永遠不會接待川普，這使得這次採訪變得更加重要。在討論中，兩人討論了從選舉舞弊、川普政策到對外星人的猜測等話題。

For Trump’s campaign, the podcast appearance represented a rare opportunity to connect with a broad, primarily male audience as a counterweight to expected strong support for Vice President Harris among women voters. Rogan’s podcast, the most listened to on Spotify, provided a direct line to a young male demographic that the Trump team has increasingly sought to engage over the past year.

對於川普的競選團隊來說，播客的出現代表了一個難得的機會，可以與廣大（主要是男性）觀眾建立聯繫，以平衡副總統哈里斯在女性選民中的強烈支持。羅根的播客是 Spotify 上收聽率最高的播客，它為川普團隊在過去一年中越來越多地尋求與年輕男性群體進行接觸提供了直接管道。

Rogan had hoped to record a podcast with Kamala Harris but they have been unable to agree on terms. The Harris campaign offered to record an interview but he “would have had to travel to her and they only wanted to do an hour.”

羅根曾希望與卡瑪拉·哈里斯錄製一個播客，但他們未能就條款達成協議。哈里斯的競選團隊提出要錄製一次採訪，但他「必須去見她，而他們只想錄製一個小時」。