咒语首席执行官约翰·帕特里克·穆林（John Patrick Mullin）的采访

Mantra最近将历史记录为第一个从迪拜虚拟资产监管机构（VARA）获得虚拟资产服务提供商（VASP）许可证的第一个Defi平台。

MANTRA recently made history as the first DeFi platform to secure a Virtual Asset Service Provider (VASP) license from Dubai’s Virtual Assets Regulatory Authority (VARA). This milestone allows MANTRA to operate as a fully regulated virtual asset exchange while offering Broker-Dealer Management and Investment Services.

Mantra最近将历史记录为第一个从迪拜虚拟资产监管机构（VARA）获得虚拟资产服务提供商（VASP）许可证的第一个Defi平台。这个里程碑允许咒语作为完全监管的虚拟资产交换，同时提供经纪交易商管理和投资服务。

To delve deeper into the complexities of obtaining a VASP license, the opportunities it unlocks for expanding partnerships and the importance of regulatory compliance in the evolving DeFi landscape, we spoke further with John Patrick Mullin, CEO at MANTRA.

为了深入研究获得VASP许可证的复杂性，它解锁了扩大伙伴关系的机会以及在不断发展的Defi景观中合规的重要性，我们与Mantra首席执行官John Patrick Mullin进行了进一步的交谈。

John Patrick Mullin is a Hong Kong-based entrepreneur and builder, focused on DeFi, blockchain technology, digital assets and Web3. He is currently the CEO and co-founder of MANTRA, a Layer 1 blockchain for RWA tokenization, and SOMA.finance. He has been investing/building in the crypto and digital assets space for over 10 years, having worked in decentralized finance and exchange/brokerage businesses.

约翰·帕特里克·穆林（John Patrick Mullin）是一位位于香港的企业家和建筑商，专注于DEFI，区块链技术，数字资产和Web3。他目前是Mantra的首席执行官兼联合创始人，是RWA令牌的第1层区块链和Soma.Finance。他在分散的金融和交流/经纪业务工作，在加密货币和数字资产空间中投资/建设已有10多年了。

John was introduced to Bitcoin in 2013 while earning his International Business degree from SLU-Madrid. He later pursued a dual Master’s Degree in Management from European Business School in Wiesbaden, Germany, and Economics from Tongji University in Shanghai, China, leading to a research analyst role at one of the largest Chinese state-owned banks.

约翰在2013年从SLU-MADRID赢得了国际商业学位，被介绍给比特币。后来，他从德国威斯巴登的欧洲商学院和中国上海的汤吉大学获得了欧洲商学院的双重管理学位，导致了中国国有银行之一的研究分析师角色。

Q 1. MANTRA Chain is designed as a purpose-built Layer 1 blockchain for real-world assets, with a strong focus on regulatory compliance. What led you to prioritize a compliance-first approach, and how has this shaped your partnerships and business strategy?

Q 1. Mantra链被设计为用于现实世界中资产的专用1层区块链，重点关注法规合规性。是什么促使您优先考虑合规性的方法，这如何塑造您的合作伙伴关系和业务策略？

A 1. From the very beginning, we recognized that the future of real-world asset (RWA) tokenization depends on regulatory trust and institutional adoption. Unlike speculative crypto projects, RWAs involve tangible assets, which means that compliance isn’t optional – it’s a prerequisite for scalability. MANTRA Chain was designed as a regulatory-first Layer 1, ensuring that financial institutions and asset managers can confidently engage with blockchain technology within a clear legal framework.

a 1。从一开始，我们就认识到现实世界资产的未来（RWA）代币化取决于监管信任和制度的采用。与投机性加密项目不同，RWA涉及有形资产，这意味着合规性不是可选的 - 这是可伸缩性的先决条件。 Mantra Chain被设计为第1层的监管第一层，以确保金融机构和资产经理可以在明确的法律框架内自信地与区块链技术互动。

This approach has directly shaped our partnerships and strategy. Securing a Virtual Asset Regulatory Authority (VARA) license in Dubai was a key step, as it positioned us to work with major financial players in a compliant environment. Our recent $1 billion real estate tokenization deal with DAMAC Group and collaborations with Google Cloud for secure infrastructure further reflect this vision. By prioritizing compliance, we’re bridging the gap between traditional finance and blockchain, making RWAs a viable asset class for mainstream adoption.

这种方法直接塑造了我们的伙伴关系和战略。确保在迪拜获得虚拟资产监管机构（VARA）许可证是关键步骤，因为它使我们能够在合规环境中与主要财务参与者合作。我们最近与Damac Group达成了10亿美元的房地产标记，并与Google Cloud合作以实现安全基础架构，进一步反映了这一愿景。通过优先考虑合规性，我们正在弥合传统金融与区块链之间的差距，使RWAS成为主流采用的可行资产类别。

Q 2. Securing a VASP license from Dubai’s Virtual Assets Regulatory Authority (VARA) is a significant milestone. How challenging was this process for MANTRA, especially as an RWA-focused platform?

Q 2。从迪拜虚拟资产监管机构（VARA）获得VASP许可是一个重要的里程碑。这个咒语的过程有多挑战，尤其是作为以RWA为中心的平台？

A 2. Obtaining the VARA license was three years in the making and a necessary step to position MANTRA as a trusted player in the RWA space. Dubai has one of the most comprehensive regulatory frameworks for virtual assets, designed to ensure transparency, security, and investor protection. Meeting these standards involved extensive audits, detailed compliance documentation, and a clear demonstration of how our platform aligns with existing financial regulations. The process required us to show robust risk management, KYC/AML capabilities, transaction monitoring, and adherence to international financial regulations.

A 2。获得VARA许可证是三年的制造，也是将咒语定位为RWA空间中值得信赖的参与者的必要步骤。迪拜是虚拟资产最全面的监管框架之一，旨在确保透明度，安全和投资者保护。符合这些标准涉及广泛的审核，详细的合规文件以及清楚的表明我们的平台如何与现有的金融法规保持一致。该过程要求我们显示出强大的风险管理，KYC/AML功能，交易监控以及遵守国际金融法规。

For an RWA-focused platform like MANTRA, the challenge was even greater because tokenizing real-world assets involves both blockchain regulations and traditional finance oversight. However, this process reinforced our long-term vision – by operating within a fully regulated environment, we can attract institutional players who require legal certainty before engaging with digital assets. Now, with our VARA license in place, we’re uniquely positioned to drive large-scale adoption of tokenized RWAs.

对于像Mantra这样以RWA为中心的平台，这一挑战更加更大，因为将象征性的现实世界资产涉及区块链法规和传统的财务监督。但是，这一过程加强了我们的长期愿景 - 通过在完全受监管的环境中运行，我们可以吸引在使用数字资产之前需要法律确定性的机构参与者。现在，借助我们的VARA许可证，我们可以独特地推动采用令牌化RWA的大规模采用。

Q 3. Based on your experience, what key advice would you offer to other Web3 businesses looking to achieve similar regulatory approvals?

Q 3。根据您的经验，您将为希望获得类似监管批准的其他Web3业务提供什么关键建议？

A 3. For Web3 businesses aiming to secure regulatory approvals, the key is to treat compliance as a core business function, not an afterthought. Regulators are looking for companies that take risk management seriously. So, don’t wait for regulations to dictate your approach. Instead, work directly with them to understand their expectations, ensure alignment with their frameworks, and be transparent about your business model. This builds trust and can significantly speed up the approval process.

A 3。对于旨在确保监管批准的Web3业务，关键是将合规性视为核心业务职能，而不是事后的想法。监管机构正在寻找认真对待风险管理的公司。因此，不要等待法规决定您的方法。取而代之的是，直接与他们合作以了解他们的期望，确保与他们的框架保持一致，并透明您的业务模式。这建立了信任，并可以大大加快批准过程。

Having an in-house legal team is key, as well as engaging with outside firms that have experience in regulated financial markets. Together, it’s a strong combination that brings together decades of experience.

拥有一个内部法律团队是关键，并且与在受监管的金融市场方面具有经验的外部公司互动。在一起，这是一种强烈的组合，汇集了数十年的经验。

Finally, build compliance into your infrastructure: integrate KYC, AML, transaction monitoring, and onchain identity verification at the protocol level (as we did with MANTRA Chain). Regulators want to see that compliance isn’t just bolted on – it needs to be embedded in your technology and operations.

最后，建立在您的基础架构中的合规性：在协议级别（与咒语链一样）集成KYC，AML，交易监视和OnChain身份验证。监管机构希望看到，合规性不仅仅是固定的 - 它需要嵌入您的技术和操作中。

Q 4. MANTRA has been actively working with Web2 businesses, such as your recent partnership with DAMAC. Do you see the VASP

问题4。Mantra一直在与Web2业务进行积极合作，例如您最近与Damac的合作伙伴关系。你看到vasp吗