咒語首席執行官約翰·帕特里克·穆林（John Patrick Mullin）的採訪

Mantra最近將歷史記錄為第一個從迪拜虛擬資產監管機構（VARA）獲得虛擬資產服務提供商（VASP）許可證的第一個Defi平台。

MANTRA recently made history as the first DeFi platform to secure a Virtual Asset Service Provider (VASP) license from Dubai’s Virtual Assets Regulatory Authority (VARA). This milestone allows MANTRA to operate as a fully regulated virtual asset exchange while offering Broker-Dealer Management and Investment Services.

Mantra最近將歷史記錄為第一個從迪拜虛擬資產監管機構（VARA）獲得虛擬資產服務提供商（VASP）許可證的第一個Defi平台。這個里程碑允許咒語作為完全監管的虛擬資產交換，同時提供經紀交易商管理和投資服務。

To delve deeper into the complexities of obtaining a VASP license, the opportunities it unlocks for expanding partnerships and the importance of regulatory compliance in the evolving DeFi landscape, we spoke further with John Patrick Mullin, CEO at MANTRA.

為了深入研究獲得VASP許可證的複雜性，它解鎖了擴大夥伴關係的機會以及在不斷發展的Defi景觀中合規的重要性，我們與Mantra首席執行官John Patrick Mullin進行了進一步的交談。

John Patrick Mullin is a Hong Kong-based entrepreneur and builder, focused on DeFi, blockchain technology, digital assets and Web3. He is currently the CEO and co-founder of MANTRA, a Layer 1 blockchain for RWA tokenization, and SOMA.finance. He has been investing/building in the crypto and digital assets space for over 10 years, having worked in decentralized finance and exchange/brokerage businesses.

約翰·帕特里克·穆林（John Patrick Mullin）是一位位於香港的企業家和建築商，專注於DEFI，區塊鏈技術，數字資產和Web3。他目前是Mantra的首席執行官兼聯合創始人，是RWA令牌的第1層區塊鍊和Soma.Finance。他在分散的金融和交流/經紀業務工作，在加密貨幣和數字資產空間中投資/建設已有10多年了。

John was introduced to Bitcoin in 2013 while earning his International Business degree from SLU-Madrid. He later pursued a dual Master’s Degree in Management from European Business School in Wiesbaden, Germany, and Economics from Tongji University in Shanghai, China, leading to a research analyst role at one of the largest Chinese state-owned banks.

約翰在2013年從SLU-MADRID贏得了國際商業學位，被介紹給比特幣。後來，他從德國威斯巴登的歐洲商學院和中國上海的湯吉大學獲得了歐洲商學院的雙重管理學位，導致了中國國有銀行之一的研究分析師角色。

Q 1. MANTRA Chain is designed as a purpose-built Layer 1 blockchain for real-world assets, with a strong focus on regulatory compliance. What led you to prioritize a compliance-first approach, and how has this shaped your partnerships and business strategy?

Q 1. Mantra鏈被設計為用於現實世界中資產的專用1層區塊鏈，重點關注法規合規性。是什麼促使您優先考慮合規性的方法，這如何塑造您的合作夥伴關係和業務策略？

A 1. From the very beginning, we recognized that the future of real-world asset (RWA) tokenization depends on regulatory trust and institutional adoption. Unlike speculative crypto projects, RWAs involve tangible assets, which means that compliance isn’t optional – it’s a prerequisite for scalability. MANTRA Chain was designed as a regulatory-first Layer 1, ensuring that financial institutions and asset managers can confidently engage with blockchain technology within a clear legal framework.

a 1。從一開始，我們就認識到現實世界資產的未來（RWA）代幣化取決於監管信任和製度的採用。與投機性加密項目不同，RWA涉及有形資產，這意味著合規性不是可選的 - 這是可伸縮性的先決條件。 Mantra Chain被設計為第1層的監管第一層，以確保金融機構和資產經理可以在明確的法律框架內自信地與區塊鏈技術互動。

This approach has directly shaped our partnerships and strategy. Securing a Virtual Asset Regulatory Authority (VARA) license in Dubai was a key step, as it positioned us to work with major financial players in a compliant environment. Our recent $1 billion real estate tokenization deal with DAMAC Group and collaborations with Google Cloud for secure infrastructure further reflect this vision. By prioritizing compliance, we’re bridging the gap between traditional finance and blockchain, making RWAs a viable asset class for mainstream adoption.

這種方法直接塑造了我們的伙伴關係和戰略。確保在迪拜獲得虛擬資產監管機構（VARA）許可證是關鍵步驟，因為它使我們能夠在合規環境中與主要財務參與者合作。我們最近與Damac Group達成了10億美元的房地產標記，並與Google Cloud合作以實現安全基礎架構，進一步反映了這一願景。通過優先考慮合規性，我們正在彌合傳統金融與區塊鏈之間的差距，使RWAS成為主流採用的可行資產類別。

Q 2. Securing a VASP license from Dubai’s Virtual Assets Regulatory Authority (VARA) is a significant milestone. How challenging was this process for MANTRA, especially as an RWA-focused platform?

Q 2。從迪拜虛擬資產監管機構（VARA）獲得VASP許可是一個重要的里程碑。這個咒語的過程有多挑戰，尤其是作為以RWA為中心的平台？

A 2. Obtaining the VARA license was three years in the making and a necessary step to position MANTRA as a trusted player in the RWA space. Dubai has one of the most comprehensive regulatory frameworks for virtual assets, designed to ensure transparency, security, and investor protection. Meeting these standards involved extensive audits, detailed compliance documentation, and a clear demonstration of how our platform aligns with existing financial regulations. The process required us to show robust risk management, KYC/AML capabilities, transaction monitoring, and adherence to international financial regulations.

A 2。獲得VARA許可證是三年的製造，也是將咒語定位為RWA空間中值得信賴的參與者的必要步驟。迪拜是虛擬資產最全面的監管框架之一，旨在確保透明度，安全和投資者保護。符合這些標準涉及廣泛的審核，詳細的合規文件以及清楚的表明我們的平台如何與現有的金融法規保持一致。該過程要求我們顯示出強大的風險管理，KYC/AML功能，交易監控以及遵守國際金融法規。

For an RWA-focused platform like MANTRA, the challenge was even greater because tokenizing real-world assets involves both blockchain regulations and traditional finance oversight. However, this process reinforced our long-term vision – by operating within a fully regulated environment, we can attract institutional players who require legal certainty before engaging with digital assets. Now, with our VARA license in place, we’re uniquely positioned to drive large-scale adoption of tokenized RWAs.

對於像Mantra這樣以RWA為中心的平台，這一挑戰更加更大，因為將像徵性的現實世界資產涉及區塊鏈法規和傳統的財務監督。但是，這一過程加強了我們的長期願景 - 通過在完全受監管的環境中運行，我們可以吸引在使用數字資產之前需要法律確定性的機構參與者。現在，借助我們的VARA許可證，我們可以獨特地推動採用令牌化RWA的大規模採用。

Q 3. Based on your experience, what key advice would you offer to other Web3 businesses looking to achieve similar regulatory approvals?

Q 3。根據您的經驗，您將為希望獲得類似監管批准的其他Web3業務提供什麼關鍵建議？

A 3. For Web3 businesses aiming to secure regulatory approvals, the key is to treat compliance as a core business function, not an afterthought. Regulators are looking for companies that take risk management seriously. So, don’t wait for regulations to dictate your approach. Instead, work directly with them to understand their expectations, ensure alignment with their frameworks, and be transparent about your business model. This builds trust and can significantly speed up the approval process.

A 3。對於旨在確保監管批准的Web3業務，關鍵是將合規性視為核心業務職能，而不是事後的想法。監管機構正在尋找認真對待風險管理的公司。因此，不要等待法規決定您的方法。取而代之的是，直接與他們合作以了解他們的期望，確保與他們的框架保持一致，並透明您的業務模式。這建立了信任，並可以大大加快批准過程。

Having an in-house legal team is key, as well as engaging with outside firms that have experience in regulated financial markets. Together, it’s a strong combination that brings together decades of experience.

擁有一個內部法律團隊是關鍵，並且與在受監管的金融市場方面具有經驗的外部公司互動。在一起，這是一種強烈的組合，匯集了數十年的經驗。

Finally, build compliance into your infrastructure: integrate KYC, AML, transaction monitoring, and onchain identity verification at the protocol level (as we did with MANTRA Chain). Regulators want to see that compliance isn’t just bolted on – it needs to be embedded in your technology and operations.

最後，建立在您的基礎架構中的合規性：在協議級別（與咒語鏈一樣）集成KYC，AML，交易監視和OnChain身份驗證。監管機構希望看到，合規性不僅僅是固定的 - 它需要嵌入您的技術和操作中。

Q 4. MANTRA has been actively working with Web2 businesses, such as your recent partnership with DAMAC. Do you see the VASP

問題4。 Mantra一直在與Web2業務進行積極合作，例如您最近與Damac的合作夥伴關係。你看到vasp嗎