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據他介紹,諸如Solana之類的第1層(L1)解決方案已經提供了有效,便宜和安全的縮放,而沒有L2的複雜性。
Solana co-founder Anatoly Yakovenko has once again openly criticized Layer-2 (L2) rollups, arguing that L1 solutions like Solana already offer efficient, cheap, and secure scaling without the complexities that come with L2s.
Solana聯合創始人Anatoly Yakovenko再次公開批評第2層(L2)匯總,認為Solana之類的L1解決方案已經提供了有效,便宜和安全的縮放,而沒有L2的複雜性。
Hot Take on Storage and L2s
熱門存儲和L2S
In a post on X, Yakovenko responded to concerns about Solana’s storage capacity, saying that it generates about 80 terabytes of data annually, which he called “measly.” He went on to say that L1s cannot be "overwhelmed" by storage, dismissing the argument often used to justify the need for L2s.
在X上的一篇文章中,Yakovenko回應了對Solana的存儲能力的擔憂,稱其每年產生約80多個數據的數據,他稱之為“有些”。他接著說,L1不能通過存儲“不知所措”,而是駁斥了通常用來證明對L2S的理由的論點。
“You can skip creating a valueless L2 and just launch a token. (No offense to L2s, many are nice but don't add value). But on a serious note, there is no point to multiple L2s doing parallel execution. If a single L2 can handle parallel execution (which is efficient), then it can use up all the blobs and run every use case. It is possible to have a single L2 be "overwhelmed" by demand, in which case another L2 could spin up and handle the overflow use cases. It is also possible to have multiple L2s focus on different use cases (e.g., one L2 for DeFi, another for NFTs, etc.). In this case, the L2s would cooperate and integrate with each other's language systems. Unfortunately, many L2s act parasitically, perpetuating their language ecosystems at the expense of the L1. This leads to fragmentation and a less efficient ecosystem overall. It is important to remember that the goal is to create a vibrant and sustainable ecosystem that benefits everyone. We should strive for cooperation and integration, not competition and parasitism. Let's work together to build the future of Web3!” he said.
“您可以跳過創建一個無價的L2並啟動令牌。((沒有違規,L2,許多人都不錯,但不要增加價值)。但是,在一個嚴重的注意上,多個L2s進行平行執行。單個L2可以處理並行執行(有效),那麼它可以用來所有的blobs和所有的用途。旋轉和處理溢出的用例也可以在不同的用例上重點放在不同的用例上(例如,一個defi,另一個用於NFT等)。重要的是要記住,目標是創建一個充滿活力和可持續的生態系統,使我們應努力進行合作和融合,而不是競爭和寄生。讓我們共同努力建立Web3的未來!”他說。
Solana Competes With Ethereum L2s, Not Ethereum Itself
Solana與以太坊L2競爭,而不是以太坊本身
Yakovenko claims that Solana is essentially in direct competition with every Ethereum L2, not with Ethereum itself. He highlighted that Solana’s architecture with well-separated execution and data layers on an efficient base layer makes it capable of keeping pace.
Yakovenko聲稱,Solana基本上與每個以太坊L2直接競爭,而不是與以太坊本身直接競爭。他強調了Solana在有效的基礎層上具有完善的執行和數據層的體系結構,使其能夠保持步伐。
"There is no point to multiple L2s ... if a single L2 can handle parallel execution, then it can use up all the blobspace and run every use case. It is possible to have a single L2 be "overwhelmed" by demand, in which case another L2 could spin up and handle the overflow use cases. It is also possible to have multiple L2s focus on different use cases (e.g., one L2 for DeFi, another for NFTs, etc.). In this case, the L2s would cooperate and integrate with each other's language systems. Unfortunately, many L2s act parasitically, perpetuating their language ecosystems at the expense of the L1. This leads to fragmentation and a less efficient ecosystem overall. It is important to remember that the goal is to create a vibrant and sustainable ecosystem that benefits everyone. We should strive for cooperation and integration, not competition and parasitism. Let's work together to build the future of Web3!" he further explained.
“沒有多個L2的意義……如果單個L2可以處理平行執行,那麼它可以用來所有的用例並運行每個用例。可以通過需求使單個L2“不知所措”,在這種情況下,另一個L2可以旋轉並處理溢出案例,並處理多個L2的用例。還可以將不同的L2側重於不同的情況。不幸的是,L2會與彼此的語言進行合作,並以L1為代價,使他們的語言生態系統持續下去。建立Web3的未來!”他進一步解釋了。
According to Yakovenko, L2s rely heavily on L1s for data availability and are bogged down by intricate fraud proofs and multi-signature updates, rendering them less efficient. He believes that Solana's design, which combines a small state and efficient data layer, allows for cheaper and faster transactions compared to L2s.
根據Yakovenko的說法,L2S在很大程度上依賴L1來獲得數據可用性,並因複雜的欺詐證明和多簽名更新而陷入困境,從而使其效率降低。他認為,與L2S相比,Solana的設計結合了一個小的狀態和有效的數據層,可以進行更便宜,更快的交易。
"The transactions in L2 are more expensive than transactions in Solana because L2s need to perform fraud proofs, which are computationally expensive. In addition, L2s are also slowed down by the need for multi-signature updates to the L1. This is because L2s are essentially "parasitic" on the L1 and must siphon off some of the L1's resources in order to operate. As a result, L2 transactions are not as cheap or fast as people think they are," Yakovenko stated.
“ L2中的交易比Solana中的交易更昂貴,因為L2需要執行欺詐證明,這些欺詐在計算上昂貴。此外,L2還可以放緩對L1的多符號更新的需求。這是因為L2S本質上是L1上的“ parasitic”,並且在L1上必須“ parasitic”,而L1的運輸方式是L1的運行,而不是L1的doctains noct and of los and and of los and of losate nos and and of and of and。人們認為他們是。” Yakovenko說。
Ethereum's Strategy Faces Challenges
以太坊的戰略面臨挑戰
On the flip side, Ethereum co-founder Joseph Lubin maintains that L2 scaling holds the key to unlocking the next chapter of the blockchain's potential. He highlighted projects like Linea and upcoming initiatives like MegaETH for delivering faster and cheaper operations.
另一方面,以太坊聯合創始人約瑟夫·盧賓(Joseph Lubin)堅持認為,L2縮放是解鎖區塊鏈潛力下一章的關鍵。他強調了Linea等項目以及Megaeth等即將推出的計劃,以提供更快,更便宜的運營。
However, Ethereum's strategy hasn't been without issues. The March 2024 Dcunu upgrade, aiming to reduce transaction fees and throughput to attract broader adoption, achieved a 95% reduction in gas prices and a 300% increase in transactions per second. As a result, by year-end, L2 transactions soared while Ethereum base-layer revenue dropped by 99%.
但是,以太坊的策略並非沒有問題。 2024年3月的DCUNU升級旨在減少交易費用和吞吐量以吸引更廣泛的採用,從而降低了95%的汽油價格,每秒交易增加了300%。結果,到年底,L2交易飆升,而以太坊基層收入下降了99%。
With over 140 scaling solutions and 60 roll-up networks already deployed on Ethereum, concerns about fragmentation and value capture are becoming increasingly pressing. Some users have also
由於已經部署在以太坊上的超過140個擴展解決方案和60個匯總網絡,因此對分裂和價值捕獲的擔憂變得越來越緊迫。一些用戶也有
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