Botanix Labs首席执行官WillemShroé在建造比特币EVM L2，Bitcoin和Spiderchain的未来| EP。 429

Botanix Labs的首席执行官兼联合创始人WillemSchroé加入了Cryptonews Spotlight Podcast，讨论比特币如何超越其价值存储状态

Willem Schroé, CEO and co-founder of Botanix Labs, joined the Cryptonews Spotlight Podcast to discuss how Bitcoin can go beyond its store-of-value status, the development of Spiderchain as a decentralized Bitcoin EVM Layer 2, and why ZK rollups don’t work on Bitcoin. In this wide-ranging conversation, Willem laid out a future where Bitcoin becomes not just digital gold, but the financial backbone of Web3.

Botanix Labs的首席执行官兼联合创始人WillemSchroé加入了Cryptonews Spotlight Podcast，讨论比特币如何超越其价值存储状态，蜘蛛链作为分散的比特币EVM 2层的开发，以及为什么ZK汇总在比特币上不起作用。在这次广泛的对话中，威廉（Willem）阐述了一个未来，比特币不仅成为数字黄金，而且成为Web3的财务骨干。

Here are some key takeaways from the interview:

这是采访中的一些关键要点：

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Today, in the people’s minds, Bitcoin is digital gold. But why would we have digital gold if you already have actual gold in the world? Bitcoin can be so much more and will be so much more. It’s just first principle logical thinking, and the question is… how is it gonna look like? And…

今天，在人们的脑海中，比特币是数字黄金。但是，如果您已经在世界上拥有实际黄金，为什么还要拥有数字黄金呢？比特币可能会更多，而且会更重要。这只是第一个原则逻辑思维，问题是……它看起来如何？和…

We absolutely believe Bitcoin is the winning money and EVM is the winning virtual machine. So we’re bringing that. We’re taking the EVM and we built that on Spiderchain.

我们绝对相信比特币是获胜的钱，EVM是获胜的虚拟机。所以我们带来了。我们正在采用EVM，并在蜘蛛链上构建了它。

We’re taking the best parts of both blockchains and merging them into one, which is quite ironic, because a lot of people say that you cannot copy code. But we’re not copying, we’re merging the best parts and making something new.

我们将两者的最佳部分都融合在一起，这是非常具有讽刺意味的，因为很多人说您不能复制代码。但是我们没有复制，我们正在合并最佳零件并制作新的东西。

* We're taking the best parts of both blockchains and merging them into one, which is quite ironic, because a lot of people say that you cannot copy code. But we're not copying, we're merging the best parts and making something new.

*我们正在将两者的最佳部分融合在一起，并将它们合并为一个，这是非常具有讽刺意味的，因为很多人说您不能复制代码。但是我们没有复制，我们正在合并最佳零件并制作新的东西。

* If you believe today that there are ZK Rollups on Bitcoin, then I don't know what else you’re into. Bitcoin doesn’t have the programmability, it doesn’t have introspection, and there’s no place to post data availability.

*如果您今天相信比特币上有ZK汇总，那么我不知道您还喜欢什么。比特币没有可编程性，没有内省，也没有位置发布数据可用性。

* Bitcoin is already there. On its base layer, it’s the best money ever made.

*比特币已经存在。在基础层上，这是有史以来最好的钱。

* We want to launch on day one with a decentralized subset of operators spread around the world.

*我们希望在第一天推出，分散的运营商子集遍布世界各地。

* You’ll pay gas fees and transaction fees actually using Bitcoin. That’s also where the Bitcoin yield comes from.

*您将实际使用比特币支付汽油费和交易费用。这也是比特币产量的来源。

* We’re not connected to Ethereum, Solana, or anything else. We’re purely connected to Bitcoin.

*我们与以太坊，索拉纳或其他任何东西都没有联系。我们纯粹连接到比特币。

* BitVM and Rollups go for centralized. We go for a decentralized EVM.

* BITVM和汇总进行集中式。我们去进行分散的EVM。

* We’ve frozen our code, we’re going through the audit right now. Then the next step is mainnet.

*我们已经冻结了代码，我们现在正在进行审核。然后下一步是主网。

* Year 1, 2, 3 is expanding the federation – from 15 to 100, to 200, and then to thousands.

*第1、2、3年将联邦扩大到15升至100，然后扩大到成千上万。

* Five years from now, you’ll be able to use Bitcoin as money everywhere. Pay Lightning invoices from your MetaMask.

*从现在开始五年后，您将能够将比特币用作金钱。从您的元掩体中支付闪电发票。

* Every two years, everybody tells Visa and Apple something different. Solana, Ethereum, Move… Bitcoin is the constant.

*每两年，每个人都会告诉Visa和Apple有所不同。 Solana，以太坊，移动……比特币是常数。

* You can borrow stablecoins against your Bitcoin. You can get Bitcoin yield. You can pay Lightning invoices from your MetaMask.

*您可以针对比特币借用Stablecoins。您可以获得比特币产量。您可以从MetAmask支付闪电发票。

* All the different building blocks are there. In 2025, we’ll look back and say that’s when Bitcoin turned into money.

*所有不同的构件都在那里。在2025年，我们回头说这是比特币变成金钱的时候。

Listen to the full interview with Willem Schroé, CEO and co-founder of Botanix Labs.

收听Botanix Labs首席执行官兼联合创始人WillemSchroé的完整采访。

In the rapidly evolving landscape of cryptocurrency, innovation knows no bounds. As the premier cryptocurrency and a store of value, Bitcoin has captured the attention of millions worldwide. However, despite its strengths, Bitcoin’s lack of smart contract functionality has limited its ability to serve as the primary blockchain for decentralized applications (dapps).

在加密货币的快速发展的景观中，创新无关。作为主要的加密货币和价值存储，比特币引起了全球数百万的关注。但是，尽管具有优势，但比特币缺乏智能合同功能，限制了其作为分散应用程序（DAPPS）的主要区块链的能力。

On the other hand, Ethereum, the second-largest cryptocurrency, is renowned for its smart contract capabilities, enabling the development of decentralized exchanges (DEXs), decentralized finance (DeFi) protocols, and a wide range of dapps.

另一方面，以太坊是第二大加密货币，以其智能合同能力而闻名，从而能够开发去中心化交易所（DEX），分散的财务（DEFI）协议和广泛的DAPP。

Now, a new project, codenamed Spiderchain, is aiming to combine the best aspects of both Bitcoin and Ethereum into a single, powerful Layer 2 (L2) blockchain.

现在，一个新项目，代号为蜘蛛链，旨在将比特币和以太坊的最佳方面结合到一个功能强大的第2层（L2）区块链中。

Developed by Botanix Labs, Spiderchain will be a decentralized EVM (Ethereum Virtual Machine) L2 secured by Bitcoin, offering smart contracts, dapps, and programmability, all powered by the Bitcoin base layer.

由Botanix Labs开发的蜘蛛链将是由比特币确保的分散的EVM（以太坊虚拟机）L2，提供智能合约，DAPP和可编程性，全部由比特币基础层提供动力。

In an interview with Cryptonews, Willem Schroé, CEO and co-founder of Botanix Labs, discussed how Bitcoin can go beyond its status as digital gold, the development of Spiderchain as a decentralized Bitcoin EVM L2, and why ZK rollups don’t work on Bitcoin.

Botanix Labs首席执行官兼联合创始人WillemSchroé在接受Cryptonews的采访时，讨论了比特币如何超越其作为数字黄金的地位，蜘蛛链作为去中心化的比特币EVM L2的发展，以及为什么ZK ZK Rollups在比特币上不起作用。

In this conversation, Schroé envisioned a future where Bitcoin becomes not just digital gold but the financial backbone of Web3, encompassing everything from payments to lending and investment.

在这次谈话中，施罗构想了一个未来，其中比特币不仅成为数字黄金，而且成为Web3的财务骨干，涵盖了从付款到贷款和投资的所有内容。

He also challenged claims that ZK rollups can function properly on Bitcoin, calling them fundamentally misaligned with Bitcoin’s architecture and ethos.

他还挑战了ZK汇总可以在比特币上正常运作的说法，称它们从根本上被比特币的建筑和精神错过。

According to Schroé, Bitcoin’s role should remain focused

根据Schroé的说法，比特币的角色应保持专注