Botanix Labs首席執行官WillemShroé在建造比特幣EVM L2，Bitcoin和Spiderchain的未來| EP。 429

Botanix Labs的首席執行官兼聯合創始人WillemSchroé加入了Cryptonews Spotlight Podcast，討論比特幣如何超越其價值存儲狀態

Willem Schroé, CEO and co-founder of Botanix Labs, joined the Cryptonews Spotlight Podcast to discuss how Bitcoin can go beyond its store-of-value status, the development of Spiderchain as a decentralized Bitcoin EVM Layer 2, and why ZK rollups don’t work on Bitcoin. In this wide-ranging conversation, Willem laid out a future where Bitcoin becomes not just digital gold, but the financial backbone of Web3.

Botanix Labs的首席執行官兼聯合創始人WillemSchroé加入了Cryptonews Spotlight Podcast，討論比特幣如何超越其價值存儲狀態，蜘蛛鏈作為分散的比特幣EVM 2層的開發，以及為什麼ZK匯總在比特幣上不起作用。在這次廣泛的對話中，威廉（Willem）闡述了一個未來，比特幣不僅成為數字黃金，而且成為Web3的財務骨幹。

Here are some key takeaways from the interview:

這是採訪中的一些關鍵要點：

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Today, in the people’s minds, Bitcoin is digital gold. But why would we have digital gold if you already have actual gold in the world? Bitcoin can be so much more and will be so much more. It’s just first principle logical thinking, and the question is… how is it gonna look like? And…

今天，在人們的腦海中，比特幣是數字黃金。但是，如果您已經在世界上擁有實際黃金，為什麼還要擁有數字黃金呢？比特幣可能會更多，而且會更重要。這只是第一個原則邏輯思維，問題是……它看起來如何？和…

We absolutely believe Bitcoin is the winning money and EVM is the winning virtual machine. So we’re bringing that. We’re taking the EVM and we built that on Spiderchain.

我們絕對相信比特幣是獲勝的錢，EVM是獲勝的虛擬機。所以我們帶來了。我們正在採用EVM，並在蜘蛛鏈上構建了它。

We’re taking the best parts of both blockchains and merging them into one, which is quite ironic, because a lot of people say that you cannot copy code. But we’re not copying, we’re merging the best parts and making something new.

我們將兩者的最佳部分都融合在一起，這是非常具有諷刺意味的，因為很多人說您不能複制代碼。但是我們沒有復制，我們正在合併最佳零件並製作新的東西。

* We're taking the best parts of both blockchains and merging them into one, which is quite ironic, because a lot of people say that you cannot copy code. But we're not copying, we're merging the best parts and making something new.

*我們正在將兩者的最佳部分融合在一起，並將它們合併為一個，這是非常具有諷刺意味的，因為很多人說您不能複制代碼。但是我們沒有復制，我們正在合併最佳零件並製作新的東西。

* If you believe today that there are ZK Rollups on Bitcoin, then I don't know what else you’re into. Bitcoin doesn’t have the programmability, it doesn’t have introspection, and there’s no place to post data availability.

*如果您今天相信比特幣上有ZK匯總，那麼我不知道您還喜歡什麼。比特幣沒有可編程性，沒有內省，也沒有位置發布數據可用性。

* Bitcoin is already there. On its base layer, it’s the best money ever made.

*比特幣已經存在。在基礎層上，這是有史以來最好的錢。

* We want to launch on day one with a decentralized subset of operators spread around the world.

*我們希望在第一天推出，分散的運營商子集遍布世界各地。

* You’ll pay gas fees and transaction fees actually using Bitcoin. That’s also where the Bitcoin yield comes from.

*您將實際使用比特幣支付汽油費和交易費用。這也是比特幣產量的來源。

* We’re not connected to Ethereum, Solana, or anything else. We’re purely connected to Bitcoin.

*我們與以太坊，索拉納或其他任何東西都沒有聯繫。我們純粹連接到比特幣。

* BitVM and Rollups go for centralized. We go for a decentralized EVM.

* BITVM和匯總進行集中式。我們去進行分散的EVM。

* We’ve frozen our code, we’re going through the audit right now. Then the next step is mainnet.

*我們已經凍結了代碼，我們現在正在進行審核。然後下一步是主網。

* Year 1, 2, 3 is expanding the federation – from 15 to 100, to 200, and then to thousands.

*第1、2、3年將聯邦擴大到15升至100，然後擴大到成千上萬。

* Five years from now, you’ll be able to use Bitcoin as money everywhere. Pay Lightning invoices from your MetaMask.

*從現在開始五年後，您將能夠將比特幣用作金錢。從您的元掩體中支付閃電發票。

* Every two years, everybody tells Visa and Apple something different. Solana, Ethereum, Move… Bitcoin is the constant.

*每兩年，每個人都會告訴Visa和Apple有所不同。 Solana，以太坊，移動……比特幣是常數。

* You can borrow stablecoins against your Bitcoin. You can get Bitcoin yield. You can pay Lightning invoices from your MetaMask.

*您可以針對比特幣借用Stablecoins。您可以獲得比特幣產量。您可以從MetAmask支付閃電發票。

* All the different building blocks are there. In 2025, we’ll look back and say that’s when Bitcoin turned into money.

*所有不同的構件都在那裡。在2025年，我們回頭說這是比特幣變成金錢的時候。

Listen to the full interview with Willem Schroé, CEO and co-founder of Botanix Labs.

收聽Botanix Labs首席執行官兼聯合創始人WillemSchroé的完整採訪。

In the rapidly evolving landscape of cryptocurrency, innovation knows no bounds. As the premier cryptocurrency and a store of value, Bitcoin has captured the attention of millions worldwide. However, despite its strengths, Bitcoin’s lack of smart contract functionality has limited its ability to serve as the primary blockchain for decentralized applications (dapps).

在加密貨幣的快速發展的景觀中，創新無關。作為主要的加密貨幣和價值存儲，比特幣引起了全球數百萬的關注。但是，儘管具有優勢，但比特幣缺乏智能合同功能，限制了其作為分散應用程序（DAPPS）的主要區塊鏈的能力。

On the other hand, Ethereum, the second-largest cryptocurrency, is renowned for its smart contract capabilities, enabling the development of decentralized exchanges (DEXs), decentralized finance (DeFi) protocols, and a wide range of dapps.

另一方面，以太坊是第二大加密貨幣，以其智能合同能力而聞名，從而能夠開發去中心化交易所（DEX），分散的財務（DEFI）協議和廣泛的DAPP。

Now, a new project, codenamed Spiderchain, is aiming to combine the best aspects of both Bitcoin and Ethereum into a single, powerful Layer 2 (L2) blockchain.

現在，一個新項目，代號為蜘蛛鏈，旨在將比特幣和以太坊的最佳方面結合到一個功能強大的第2層（L2）區塊鏈中。

Developed by Botanix Labs, Spiderchain will be a decentralized EVM (Ethereum Virtual Machine) L2 secured by Bitcoin, offering smart contracts, dapps, and programmability, all powered by the Bitcoin base layer.

由Botanix Labs開發的蜘蛛鏈將是由比特幣確保的分散的EVM（以太坊虛擬機）L2，提供智能合約，DAPP和可編程性，全部由比特幣基礎層提供動力。

In an interview with Cryptonews, Willem Schroé, CEO and co-founder of Botanix Labs, discussed how Bitcoin can go beyond its status as digital gold, the development of Spiderchain as a decentralized Bitcoin EVM L2, and why ZK rollups don’t work on Bitcoin.

Botanix Labs首席執行官兼聯合創始人WillemSchroé在接受Cryptonews的採訪時，討論了比特幣如何超越其作為數字黃金的地位，蜘蛛鏈作為去中心化的比特幣EVM L2的發展，以及為什麼ZK ZK Rollups在比特幣上不起作用。

In this conversation, Schroé envisioned a future where Bitcoin becomes not just digital gold but the financial backbone of Web3, encompassing everything from payments to lending and investment.

在這次談話中，施羅構想了一個未來，其中比特幣不僅成為數字黃金，而且成為Web3的財務骨幹，涵蓋了從付款到貸款和投資的所有內容。

He also challenged claims that ZK rollups can function properly on Bitcoin, calling them fundamentally misaligned with Bitcoin’s architecture and ethos.

他還挑戰了ZK匯總可以在比特幣上正常運作的說法，稱它們從根本上被比特幣的建築和精神錯過。

According to Schroé, Bitcoin’s role should remain focused

根據Schroé的說法，比特幣的角色應保持專注