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Solana 社区成员长期以来一直批评以太坊使用第 2 层网络来实现更多交易的模块化方法
Solana community members have long criticized modular approaches in using layer 2 networks to enable more transactions, arguing these L2s come at the expense of Ethereum itself. However, this past week, those in the Solana camp seem to be gearing up to embrace modularity—even if they won’t use the same terminology.
Solana 社区成员长期以来一直批评使用第 2 层网络来实现更多交易的模块化方法,认为这些 L2 是以牺牲以太坊本身为代价的。然而,在过去的一周,Solana 阵营的人似乎正在准备拥抱模块化——即使他们不会使用相同的术语。
After having mocked modular structures, in which scaling of the blockchain occurs by delegating some functions to other chains that connect to the original one, some Solana community members have opted to call L2 technologies on Solana “network extensions,” igniting controversy and derision, especially among Ethereum proponents.
在嘲笑模块化结构(通过将一些功能委托给连接到原始链的其他链来实现区块链的扩展)之后,一些 Solana 社区成员选择将 Solana 上的 L2 技术称为“网络扩展”,引发了争议和嘲笑,尤其是以太坊支持者中。
On Monday, Solana’s co-founder Anatoly Yakovenko said on X that “[L2s] are parasitic when they take more priority [transactions] from the base layer than they add.” On the same day, Kyle Samani, the managing partner of Multicoin Capital wrote, “Anything that doesn’t happen on L1 that could’ve happened on L1 is by definition parasitic.” The argument of whether L2s are “parasitic” boils down to an L2’s function having near-complete overlap with the L1 by virtue of running the same applications as the L1, while at the same time taking revenue and users from the L1 itself.
周一,Solana 的联合创始人 Anatoly Yakovenko 在 X 上表示,“当 [L2] 从基础层获取的优先级 [交易] 多于它们添加的优先级时,它们就是寄生的。”同一天,Multicoin Capital 的管理合伙人凯尔·萨马尼 (Kyle Samani) 写道,“任何在 L1 上没有发生但可能在 L1 上发生的事情从定义上来说都是寄生的。”关于 L2 是否“寄生”的争论归结为 L2 的功能与 L1 几乎完全重叠,因为它运行与 L1 相同的应用程序,同时从 L1 本身获取收入和用户。
Yakovenko added, “If the Solana ecosystem were to cripple L1 execution optimizations in favor of ‘ARB/OP’ general purpose L2 stack to handle all the user [transactions], it would be parasitic to Solana’s mainnet.”
Yakovenko 补充道,“如果 Solana 生态系统要削弱 L1 执行优化,转而采用‘ARB/OP’通用 L2 堆栈来处理所有用户[交易],那么它将寄生于 Solana 的主网。”
Typically, layer 2 networks refer to auxiliary blockchains built on Ethereum’s base layer aimed at making transactions faster and cheaper, while maintaining the roughly same level of security. In pragmatic terms, if a user wanted to be on an L2, they would click several buttons to bridge their assets from Ethereum’s base layer and into an L2.
通常,第 2 层网络是指构建在以太坊基础层上的辅助区块链,旨在使交易更快、更便宜,同时保持大致相同的安全级别。从实用角度来说,如果用户想要进入 L2,他们将单击几个按钮将其资产从以太坊基础层桥接到 L2。
Solana supporters calling Ethereum’s L2s “parasitic” incited several people to debate definitions and point out that Solana also has L2s. For example, Ethereum investor Ryan Berckmans said on Tuesday, “Nobody denies that L2s are literally competitive with the L1.”
Solana 支持者称以太坊的 L2 是“寄生的”,这引发了一些人对定义的争论,并指出 Solana 也有 L2。例如,以太坊投资者 Ryan Berckmans 周二表示,“没有人否认 L2 确实可以与 L1 竞争。”
“What we don’t like is the intentional emotional conjugation of the word ‘parasitic’ to imply that Eth's L2 model sucks. L2s are symbiotic and complementary with the L1,” Berckmans noted.
“我们不喜欢的是‘寄生’这个词故意在情感上结合在一起,暗示以太坊的 L2 模型很糟糕。 L2 与 L1 是共生和互补的,”Berckmans 指出。
Two examples of Solana L2s include Zeta and Code. Zeta, a crypto perpetual exchange built on Solana, has branded itself a “Trustless Layer 2 for Decentralized Derivatives Trading,” according to its documentation which also refers to the project as an “optimistic rollup on Solana.” “Rollups” are used synonymously with “L2s.”
Solana L2 的两个示例包括 Zeta 和 Code。 Zeta 是一个基于 Solana 的加密货币永续交易所,根据其文档,该交易所将自己称为“去中心化衍生品交易的无需信任的第 2 层”,该文档还将该项目称为“Solana 上的乐观汇总”。 “Rollups”与“L2”同义。
Ted Livingston, the founder and CEO of Solana-based payments platform Code, also described his project as an L2, saying on X in Feb. 2024, “The Code L2 does a lot of things, but one of the things it does is create the ability to securely queue up transactions even when Solana is down.”
基于 Solana 的支付平台 Code 的创始人兼首席执行官 Ted Livingston 也将他的项目描述为 L2,并于 2024 年 2 月在 X 上表示,“Code L2 做了很多事情,但它所做的一件事就是创造即使 Solana 宕机也能安全地对交易进行排队。”
In 2023, Multicoin Capital’s Samani conducted a poll on X that had 2,200 votes asking whether L2s are parasitic to L1s, and in it, 60.1% of respondents voted “No,” while 22.8% voted “Yes,” with the remaining respondents voting just to see the results.
2023 年,Multicoin Capital 的 Samani 对 X 进行了一项民意调查,有 2200 人投票询问 L2 是否寄生于 L1,其中 60.1% 的受访者投了“否”,22.8% 的受访者投了“是”,其余受访者只投票了查看结果。
‘Network Extensions,’ Not L2s
“网络扩展”,而不是 L2
The Solana Foundation’s head of strategy Austin Federa chimed in, calling what people consider to be L2s on Solana are really “network extensions.”
Solana 基金会的战略主管 Austin Federa 插话道,称人们认为的 Solana 上的 L2 实际上是“网络扩展”。
“Most of the L2-ish things on Solana are better thought of as Network Extensions. While the underlying tech stack might resemble Bitcoin or Ethereum L2s, the function and role is so radically different I think founders would best be served by Network Extensions,” said Federa on Monday.
“Solana 上的大多数 L2 类东西最好被视为网络扩展。虽然底层技术堆栈可能类似于比特币或以太坊 L2,但功能和角色却截然不同,我认为创始人最好通过网络扩展来服务。”Federa 周一表示。
Nick White, the chief operating officer at Celestia, called out Federa for trying to call layer 2s on Solana by a different name. “Monoliths are capitulating to modular… Now they have to come up with new words for everything, so rollups = “network extensions.” It’s cute,” said White.
Celestia 的首席运营官 Nick White 批评 Federa 试图用不同的名称来调用 Solana 上的第 2 层。 “单体正在向模块化屈服……现在他们必须为一切想出新词,所以汇总=“网络扩展”。它很可爱,”怀特说。
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Are Network Extensions Really Different From L2s?
网络扩展真的与 L2 不同吗?
On X, Federa further explained, “Network Extensions extend the Solana network to new places, or bring new execution environment, specialized processing, etc to the Solana network.” Rather than a general-purpose layer 2 blockchain network that has the same design as its base layer, network extensions are specialized to handle
在X上,Federa进一步解释说,“网络扩展将Solana网络扩展到新的地方,或者为Solana网络带来新的执行环境、专门的处理等。”网络扩展不是与基础层具有相同设计的通用第 2 层区块链网络,而是专门用于处理
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