伊莎贝尔·福克森·杜克（Isabel Foxen Duke）的原始采访

由Odaily Planet Daily Golem编译

On March 16, 2023, Domo launched the BRC-20 token standard. Over the past two years, the Bitcoin ecosystem has also experienced the ups and downs of the crypto industry, falling from the crowd after a period of hype.

2023年3月16日，Domo启动了BRC-20代币标准。在过去的两年中，比特币生态系统还经历了加密货币行业的起伏，经过一段时间的炒作。

The birth of BRC-20 is undoubtedly epoch-making for the Bitcoin ecosystem.

对于比特币生态系统而言，BRC-20的诞生无疑是划时的。

On the second anniversary of BRC-20, Domo, the founder who never accepts public video interviews, accepted an interview with Isabel Foxen Duke for the first time, talking about his encryption experience, the story before and after the birth of BRC-20, his views on UniSat, and the future development plan of BRC-20. Odaily Planet Daily compiled the original interview as follows, enjoy~

在BRC-20周年纪念日，从未接受公开视频采访的创始人Domo首次接受了与Isabel Foxen Duke的采访，谈论了他的加密经验，BRC-20之前和之后的故事，他对UNISAT的观点以及BRC-20的未来发展计划。 Odaily Planet Daily如下汇编了原始采访，享受〜

Host: Glad to have you, Isabel. This is the first time he’s agreed to do a video interview, so we’re very lucky to have him.

主持人：伊莎贝尔很高兴有你。这是他第一次同意进行视频采访，所以我们很幸运能拥有他。

We’d like to take this opportunity to let the audience know more about your story. I heard that you didn’t pay much attention to Bitcoin before Ordinals and BRC-20. Is that true? What did you do before you got involved in the Ordinals protocol?

我们想借此机会让观众更多地了解您的故事。我听说您在Ordinals和BRC-20之前对比特币没有太多关注。是真的吗？在参与Ordinals协议之前，您做了什么？

Isabel: Yeah, I didn’t really put most of my energy into Bitcoin two years ago, and like most people, it was the Ordinals protocol that brought me back to Bitcoin. Before that, I had some Bitcoin in my account and it went up and down but I didn’t actually do anything.

伊莎贝尔：是的，两年前我并没有真正将自己的大部分精力投入到比特币中，而且像大多数人一样，正是Ordinals协议将我带回了比特币。在此之前，我的帐户中有一些比特币，它上下倾斜，但实际上我什么也没做。

I came into contact with cryptocurrency relatively late, starting my crypto journey in 2019, but I was still not deeply involved, mainly learning some basic crypto information through Reddit and YouTube. The real transformation happened in the summer of 2020, when I was working in data science and discovered DeFi innovation on Ethereum, especially projects like Uniswap.

我相对较晚就与加密货币接触，开始了2019年的加密之旅，但我仍然没有深入参与，主要是通过Reddit和YouTube学习一些基本的加密信息。真正的转变发生在2020年夏天，当时我从事数据科学工作，并发现了对以太坊的Defi创新，尤其是像Uniswap这样的项目。

There was very clean data on-chain and I didn’t even need to spend hours processing it to analyze it. So, the first thing I did was to scrape the Ethereum data for analysis and set up a Telegram bot to track the traders on the chain, and time also proved that they were the most profitable wave of people in the DeFi summer at that time.

链上有非常干净的数据，我什至不需要花费数小时来分析它。因此，我要做的第一件事是刮擦以太坊数据进行分析，并设置了一个电报机器人来跟踪链条上的交易者，而时间也证明了他们是当时Defi夏季最有利可图的人浪潮。

Later, I invested my entire monthly salary in Bitcoin and Ethereum, but they almost bankrupted me, so I realized that maybe there was an opportunity only in the crypto-native field. Then around January-February 2021, I found some particularly useful NFT Discords, and I used my on-chain data skills to catch a lot of Alpha in the market madness of NFT Summer, so I had a great financial performance and a good time in 2021.

后来，我将整个每月的薪水投入到比特币和以太坊上，但他们几乎使我破产了，所以我意识到也许只有在加密本地领域才有机会。然后在2021年1月至2月左右，我发现了一些特别有用的NFT不和谐，我利用链上的数据技能在NFT夏季疯狂的市场上吸引了很多Alpha，所以我在2021年经历了良好的财务表现和愉快的时光。

But I was still looking for a way to join the industry full-time. Until November 2021, I met a guy in an NFT Discord who worked for a large crypto payment company, and then I joined their company and led the team’s on-chain data analysis work for the next few years until I released the BRC-20 protocol.

但是我仍在寻找一种全职加入该行业的方法。直到2021年11月，我遇到了一个在NFT Discord的人，他在一家大型加密货币支付公司工作，然后我加入了他们的公司，并在未来几年内领导了该团队的链链数据分析工作，直到我发布了BRC-20协议。

Host: Do you remember when you first heard of Ordinals?

主持人：您还记得您第一次听说序言时吗？

Isabel: I can’t remember exactly when, but I saw it in January 2023, but I didn’t do anything with it. It wasn’t until I saw it again in February that I realized it was more than just some experimental thing a small group of people were playing with in their basement.

伊莎贝尔（Isabel）：我不记得确切的时间，但我在2023年1月看到了它，但我对此一无所知。直到我在2月再次看到它时，我才意识到这不仅仅是一小群人在地下室玩耍的实验性。

Early Ordinals collectibles also played an important role in the birth of BRC-20. For example, Bitcoin punks actually first invented "Fair launch" on Bitcoin because we had no way to distribute through smart contracts.

早期的序列收藏品在BRC-20的诞生中也发挥了重要作用。例如，比特币朋克实际上首先在比特币上发明了“公平发布”，因为我们无法通过智能合约分发。

Then the .stas domain was born, which really brought Jason format data to the masses and into the Bitcoin memory pool. I opened my computer at work and found it, and I thought this is really great, we have taken another step forward, the Ordinals protocol is no longer just an art protocol, it can also use Bitcoin as a data availability layer.

然后，.Stas域诞生了，这确实将Jason格式数据带到了大众和比特币内存池中。我在工作中打开计算机并找到了它，我认为这真的很棒，我们已经向前迈出了又一步，Ordinals协议不再仅仅是艺术协议，它也可以将比特币用作数据可用性层。

The infrastructure is right in front of us, and you can do what you want. So I thought, is there something else we can do? From that moment on, I thought of the Ordinals protocol as a gateway to Bitcoin data availability that is easily accessible to most users regardless of technical ability or background.

基础架构就在我们面前，您可以做自己想做的事。所以我想，还有其他可以做的事情吗？从那时起，我将Ordinals协议视为通往比特币数据可用性的网关，无论技术能力或背景如何，大多数用户都可以轻松访问。

Moderator: Before creating the BRC-20 protocol, did you conceive of this protocol with others or go through some community discussions?

主持人：在创建BRC-20协议之前，您是否与他人构想了此协议或进行一些社区讨论？

Isabel: After seeing .sats domains use JSON format on the chain, I saw a tweet from a blogger named " redphone ". He worked with Delphi Ventures to publish a pseudo-spec, and I think his design will succeed, but it is missing a few key things, but it is still inspiring.

伊莎贝尔：看到.Sat域在链上使用JSON格式后，我看到了一个名为“ Redphone”的博客作者的推文。他与Delphi Ventures合作出版了伪规格，我认为他的设计将成功，但它缺少一些关键的事情，但仍然令人鼓舞。

I locked myself in my room for two days and created the BRC-20 protocol, but a lot of the credit

我把自己锁在房间里两天，创建了BRC-20协议，但是很多信用