伊莎貝爾·福克森·杜克（Isabel Foxen Duke）的原始採訪

由Odaily Planet Daily Golem編譯

On March 16, 2023, Domo launched the BRC-20 token standard. Over the past two years, the Bitcoin ecosystem has also experienced the ups and downs of the crypto industry, falling from the crowd after a period of hype.

2023年3月16日，Domo啟動了BRC-20代幣標準。在過去的兩年中，比特幣生態系統還經歷了加密貨幣行業的起伏，經過一段時間的炒作。

The birth of BRC-20 is undoubtedly epoch-making for the Bitcoin ecosystem.

對於比特幣生態系統而言，BRC-20的誕生無疑是劃時的。

On the second anniversary of BRC-20, Domo, the founder who never accepts public video interviews, accepted an interview with Isabel Foxen Duke for the first time, talking about his encryption experience, the story before and after the birth of BRC-20, his views on UniSat, and the future development plan of BRC-20. Odaily Planet Daily compiled the original interview as follows, enjoy~

在BRC-20週年紀念日，從未接受公開視頻採訪的創始人Domo首次接受了與Isabel Foxen Duke的採訪，談論了他的加密經驗，BRC-20之前和之後的故事，他對UNISAT的觀點以及BRC-20的未來發展計劃。 Odaily Planet Daily如下彙編了原始採訪，享受〜

Host: Glad to have you, Isabel. This is the first time he’s agreed to do a video interview, so we’re very lucky to have him.

主持人：伊莎貝爾很高興有你。這是他第一次同意進行視頻採訪，所以我們很幸運能擁有他。

We’d like to take this opportunity to let the audience know more about your story. I heard that you didn’t pay much attention to Bitcoin before Ordinals and BRC-20. Is that true? What did you do before you got involved in the Ordinals protocol?

我們想藉此機會讓觀眾更多地了解您的故事。我聽說您在Ordinals和BRC-20之前對比特幣沒有太多關注。是真的嗎？在參與Ordinals協議之前，您做了什麼？

Isabel: Yeah, I didn’t really put most of my energy into Bitcoin two years ago, and like most people, it was the Ordinals protocol that brought me back to Bitcoin. Before that, I had some Bitcoin in my account and it went up and down but I didn’t actually do anything.

伊莎貝爾：是的，兩年前我並沒有真正將自己的大部分精力投入到比特幣中，而且像大多數人一樣，正是Ordinals協議將我帶回了比特幣。在此之前，我的帳戶中有一些比特幣，它上下傾斜，但實際上我什麼也沒做。

I came into contact with cryptocurrency relatively late, starting my crypto journey in 2019, but I was still not deeply involved, mainly learning some basic crypto information through Reddit and YouTube. The real transformation happened in the summer of 2020, when I was working in data science and discovered DeFi innovation on Ethereum, especially projects like Uniswap.

我相對較晚就與加密貨幣接觸，開始了2019年的加密之旅，但我仍然沒有深入參與，主要是通過Reddit和YouTube學習一些基本的加密信息。真正的轉變發生在2020年夏天，當時我從事數據科學工作，並發現了對以太坊的Defi創新，尤其是像Uniswap這樣的項目。

There was very clean data on-chain and I didn’t even need to spend hours processing it to analyze it. So, the first thing I did was to scrape the Ethereum data for analysis and set up a Telegram bot to track the traders on the chain, and time also proved that they were the most profitable wave of people in the DeFi summer at that time.

鏈上有非常乾淨的數據，我什至不需要花費數小時來分析它。因此，我要做的第一件事是刮擦以太坊數據進行分析，並設置了一個電報機器人來跟踪鏈條上的交易者，而時間也證明了他們是當時Defi夏季最有利可圖的人浪潮。

Later, I invested my entire monthly salary in Bitcoin and Ethereum, but they almost bankrupted me, so I realized that maybe there was an opportunity only in the crypto-native field. Then around January-February 2021, I found some particularly useful NFT Discords, and I used my on-chain data skills to catch a lot of Alpha in the market madness of NFT Summer, so I had a great financial performance and a good time in 2021.

後來，我將整個每月的薪水投入到比特幣和以太坊上，但他們幾乎使我破產了，所以我意識到也許只有在加密本地領域才有機會。然後在2021年1月至2月左右，我發現了一些特別有用的NFT不和諧，我利用鏈上的數據技能在NFT夏季瘋狂的市場上吸引了很多Alpha，所以我在2021年經歷了良好的財務表現和愉快的時光。

But I was still looking for a way to join the industry full-time. Until November 2021, I met a guy in an NFT Discord who worked for a large crypto payment company, and then I joined their company and led the team’s on-chain data analysis work for the next few years until I released the BRC-20 protocol.

但是我仍在尋找一種全職加入該行業的方法。直到2021年11月，我遇到了一個在NFT Discord的人，他在一家大型加密貨幣支付公司工作，然後我加入了他們的公司，並在未來幾年內領導了該團隊的鍊鍊數據分析工作，直到我發布了BRC-20協議。

Host: Do you remember when you first heard of Ordinals?

主持人：您還記得您第一次聽說序言時嗎？

Isabel: I can’t remember exactly when, but I saw it in January 2023, but I didn’t do anything with it. It wasn’t until I saw it again in February that I realized it was more than just some experimental thing a small group of people were playing with in their basement.

伊莎貝爾（Isabel）：我不記得確切的時間，但我在2023年1月看到了它，但我對此一無所知。直到我在2月再次看到它時，我才意識到這不僅僅是一小群人在地下室玩耍的實驗性。

Early Ordinals collectibles also played an important role in the birth of BRC-20. For example, Bitcoin punks actually first invented "Fair launch" on Bitcoin because we had no way to distribute through smart contracts.

早期的序列收藏品在BRC-20的誕生中也發揮了重要作用。例如，比特幣朋克實際上首先在比特幣上發明了“公平發布”，因為我們無法通過智能合約分發。

Then the .stas domain was born, which really brought Jason format data to the masses and into the Bitcoin memory pool. I opened my computer at work and found it, and I thought this is really great, we have taken another step forward, the Ordinals protocol is no longer just an art protocol, it can also use Bitcoin as a data availability layer.

然後，.Stas域誕生了，這確實將Jason格式數據帶到了大眾和比特幣內存池中。我在工作中打開計算機並找到了它，我認為這真的很棒，我們已經向前邁出了又一步，Ordinals協議不再僅僅是藝術協議，它也可以將比特幣用作數據可用性層。

The infrastructure is right in front of us, and you can do what you want. So I thought, is there something else we can do? From that moment on, I thought of the Ordinals protocol as a gateway to Bitcoin data availability that is easily accessible to most users regardless of technical ability or background.

基礎架構就在我們面前，您可以做自己想做的事。所以我想，還有其他可以做的事情嗎？從那時起，我將Ordinals協議視為通往比特幣數據可用性的網關，無論技術能力或背景如何，大多數用戶都可以輕鬆訪問。

Moderator: Before creating the BRC-20 protocol, did you conceive of this protocol with others or go through some community discussions?

主持人：在創建BRC-20協議之前，您是否與他人構想了此協議或進行一些社區討論？

Isabel: After seeing .sats domains use JSON format on the chain, I saw a tweet from a blogger named " redphone ". He worked with Delphi Ventures to publish a pseudo-spec, and I think his design will succeed, but it is missing a few key things, but it is still inspiring.

伊莎貝爾：看到.Sat域在鏈上使用JSON格式後，我看到了一個名為“ Redphone”的博客作者的推文。他與Delphi Ventures合作出版了偽規格，我認為他的設計將成功，但它缺少一些關鍵的事情，但仍然令人鼓舞。

I locked myself in my room for two days and created the BRC-20 protocol, but a lot of the credit

我把自己鎖在房間裡兩天，創建了BRC-20協議，但是很多信用