乔·罗根 (Joe Rogan) 与唐纳德·特朗普 (Donald Trump) 体验播客：外星人、2020 年大选等

这是播客的典型一集，有很多笑话，主题包括 UFC、综合格斗选手、埃隆·马斯克、外星人的存在，还有一些政治。

Joe Rogan finally had former President Donald Trump on his podcast, The Joe Rogan Experience, on Thursday.

周四，乔·罗根终于在他的播客“乔·罗根经历”中邀请了前总统唐纳德·特朗普。

During the three-hour conversation, Rogan and Trump covered a wide range of topics, including the existence of aliens, the 2020 election result, and Trump’s relationship with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

在三个小时的谈话中，罗根和特朗普讨论了广泛的话题，包括外星人的存在、2020年大选结果以及特朗普与朝鲜领导人金正恩和俄罗斯总统弗拉基米尔·普京的关系。

Here are some of the key moments from the podcast:

以下是播客的一些关键时刻：

Do Aliens Exist?

外星人存在吗？

This is a recurring theme on Rogan’s podcast. He’s had many different guests on who claim to have some kind of proof that UFOs and aliens are real. Trump said that he hadn’t ruled out there being life in space, but hadn’t been shown any secret files.

这是罗根播客中反复出现的主题。他邀请过许多不同的客人，他们声称拥有某种证据，证明不明飞行物和外星人是真实存在的。特朗普表示，他不排除太空中存在生命，但没有看到任何秘密文件。

“There’s no reason not to think that Mars and all these planets don’t have life,” he said, referencing conversations with jet pilots who’d seen “very strange” things in the sky.

“没有理由不认为火星和所有这些行星没有生命，”他说，指的是与喷气式飞机飞行员的对话，他们在天空中看到了“非常奇怪”的东西。

On the 2020 Election Result

关于2020年选举结果

Joe Rogan suggested that “a lot of weirdness” happened in the 2020 election, “particularly with mail-in ballots.”

乔·罗根 (Joe Rogan) 表示，2020 年选举中发生了“很多奇怪的事情”，“尤其是邮寄选票”。

“I’ve never met one person—not a super liberal progressive, far-left person, or a right-wing conservative—not one person thinks it’s zero percent,” Rogan said about election interference.

“我从来没有见过一个人——无论是超级自由进步派、极左派还是右翼保守派——没有人认为这是零%，”罗根谈到选举干预时说道。

Asked for proof to back up his claims that the 2020 presidential was stolen, Trump told Rogan: “We’ll do it another time.

当被要求提供证据来支持他关于 2020 年总统大选被盗的说法时，特朗普告诉罗根：“我们会再做一次。

“I would bring in papers that you would not believe, so many different papers. That election was so crooked, it was the most crooked.”

“我会带来你不会相信的论文，这么多不同的论文。那次选举太歪了，是最歪的。”

Rogan pushed Trump for evidence to no avail.

罗根敦促特朗普提供证据，但无济于事。

Republicans are Punk Rock

共和党人是朋克摇滚

Rogan went viral take when he declared that Republicans are now “punk rock” and “the rebels” of society.

当罗根宣称共和党人现在是社会的“朋克摇滚”和“叛逆者”时，他的言论迅速走红。

“You want to be punk rock? You want to buck the system?” Rogan asked. “You are conservative now,” he stated. “The liberals are now pro-silencing criticism. They are pro-censorship. They talk about regulating free speech. It’s bananas to watch,” Rogan lamented.

“你想成为朋克摇滚吗？你想反抗系统吗？”罗根问道。 “你现在很保守，”他说。 “自由派现在支持压制批评。他们支持审查制度。他们谈论规范言论自由。这简直就是香蕉。”罗根感叹道。

Trump Controls Kim Jong-un and Putin

特朗普控制金正恩和普京

Trump said he got to know Kim “very well” after the two worked out their differenes following Trump’s “Little Rocket Man” comment.

特朗普表示，在特朗普发表“小火箭人”言论后，两人解决了分歧，他对金正恩“非常了解”。

Trump said he told Kim to stop building up his “substantial” weapons stockpile.

特朗普表示，他告诉金正恩停止建立“大量”武器库存。

“I said: ‘Do you ever do anything else? Why don’t you go take it easy? Go to the beach, relax.

“我说：‘你还做过别的事吗？你为什么不去轻松一点呢？去海滩，放松一下。

“I said: ‘You’re always building nuclear, you don’t have to do it. Relax!’ I said: ‘Let’s build some condos on your shore.’”

“我说：‘你总是在建造核能，你不必这样做。放松！'我说：‘我们在你的海岸上建一些公寓吧。’”

Trump also argued that Russia would never have invaded Ukraine if he had been president.

特朗普还辩称，如果他担任总统，俄罗斯永远不会入侵乌克兰。

“I said, ‘Vladimir, you’re not going in,’” he told Rogan, referring to Putin. “I used to talk to him all the time.

“我说，‘弗拉基米尔，你不能进去，’”他告诉罗根，他指的是普京。 “我以前一直和他说话。

Trump on his ‘biggest mistake’

特朗普谈他的“最大错误”

Trump told Rogan the “biggest mistake” of his 2017-21 presidency was “I picked a few people I shouldn’t have picked”.

特朗普告诉罗根，他在 2017-21 年总统任期内“最大的错误”是“我选择了一些不应该选择的人”。

This includes National Security Advisor John Bolton and White House Chief of Staff John Kelly.

其中包括国家安全顾问约翰·博尔顿和白宫办公厅主任约翰·凯利。

Trump revealed that the presidency involves around 10,000 federal appointments, including 100 major ones. Now that Trump has seen the swamp with his own eyes and familiarized himself with Washington, he has much higher confidence that his future picks would better serve the American people.

特朗普透露，总统职位涉及约1万项联邦任命，其中包括100项重大任命。现在，特朗普亲眼目睹了这片沼泽，也熟悉了华盛顿，他对自己未来的人选将更好地为美国人民服务更有信心。